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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

But yeah, my morals still stands, as they are a part of who I have become. But that still has nothing to do with this thread.

Considering how veiled you have been with your intentions in regards to the purpose of this thread, it is getting to a place where anything posted in it will have nothing to do with this thread at all.  Apparently, it isn't about determinism, nor is it really about sin either (any discussion about whether sin is or is not, is going to have to discuss what one sins against), outside of the wish that there wasn't any.  You should really come out and say it is about your support for gay marriage, and be done with it.  It would be a lot simplier, and posts in it have a shot at having something to do with it.