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SargeSmash on 11 May 2012
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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:


I think you need to understand that you are making this way more complex than it really is. If God created time (and is not affected by it), then he must be able to predict the future. Do you really think that God has no idea of what you will be doing tomorrow, or what will be your next meal?

 

For the millionth time: God cannot be omniscient while still not be able to see the future. Here is the definition of omniscient:

"Having infinite awareness, understanding, and insight" also: "Possessed of universal or complete knowledge"

 

The knowledge is not complete, in God's case.

Just as an aside, I think it's not so much that we are making it more complex than it really is, it's that either:  1) You're making things more reductive than they actually are, or 2) There is a point at which human knowledge fails to completely grasp all of the particulars at hand.

You're still hung up on the time thing.  I can understand that, given our nature as strictly temporal beings (for now).  But knowing something is going to happen (or, once again, in this case is happening in the present, from the perspective of God) does not necessarily imply lack of free will.  The two concepts, no matter how many times you state it, are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

Again, all we can do is see things from our perspective.  And we're doing the best we can to explain things outside of our ken.  Within the framework presented in the Bible, God can both allow free will and be omniscient, and the concept can be internally logically consistent.  If you wish to reject the framework involved (which is belief that there is no such God), then there's nothing we can do to convince you of the logic otherwise.