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cookingyourmama on 11 May 2012
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slowmo said:
pezus said:
slowmo said:
cookingyourmama said:
kowenicki said:
360 relatively good (market share), but in absolute terms not very good.

PS3 and Wii poor.

All overtracked, PS3 and especially Wii quite heavily in % terms.

Adjustments will be incoming for PS3 and possibly Wii too following this and the Sony shipment numbers.

Next gen required...

Errr the 360 is overtracked more than the ps3 this month in terms of raw numbers.

He said they were all overtracked and that the Wii particularly so, no mention of the 360 being overtracked more or less than the PS3.

He only mentioned adjustments for PS3 and Wii because it is on regards to the recent Sony shipping numbers.  I think you've jumped the gun in your eagerness to bash him and should read his post again. 

The 360 probably will need adjusting too but the issue is masked in the overall numbers by the poor tracking of sales in the EU for the 360.  I think the issue with the 360 is we overtrack it in the US and undertrack in the EU consistantly, but thats just my opinion. 

Comparing VGC Europe sales with the numbers from Nintendo the tracking wasn't poor at all. What was it, 100k under for the whole quarter?

Which is why I stated it was just my opinion.  Data generally seems to point the overall sales figures we have for 360 are about correct, the issue seems to be where those sales occur.  At the end of the day I said it was my opinion as it's marginal but I stand by the fact that I suspect we are undertracking in the EU and overtracking in the US.  Adjustments in the future are the only way to prove me right though.  Perhaps poor was the wrong word to use I conceed though, I should have just said "due to undertrakcing of EU sales for the 360 imo".

Don't be childish Cookingyourmama, someone liking a brand or game enough to use the art as a avatar doesn't instantly make their opinion stereotypically a certain type.  On the point you seem to be making that VG Chartz overtracks the 360 every month, could you post the last 5 months VG CHartz and NPD numbers for PS3 and 360 to prove your case please, I'm not so sure you have a point at all but I'll happily conceed if you're right.

 

Right first off i would like to say that in no way do i think the numbers on this site are deliberately biased in anyway, it's just that this site has to work with limited data and possibly the formulas they use need working on as well but when it comes to american NPD data and Vgchartz data, nearly every single month the 360 comes off much better vs the ps3 compared to the reaility of NPD's actual numbers. So here as you've asked for it are the last 5 months worth of data before Vgchartz made adjustments:

December 2011

360) VGC - 2,830,000 / NPD - 1,700,000 = 1,130,000 overtracked
ps3) VGC -1,252,000 / NPD - 936,000 = 316,000 overtracked

January 2012

360) VGC - 403,000 / NPD - 270,000 = 133,000 overtracked
ps3) VGC - 258,000 / NPD - 190,000 = 68,000 overtracked

February 2012

360) VGC - 337,000 / NPD - 426,000 = 89,000 undertracked
ps3) VGC - 238,000 / NPD - 360,000 = 122,000 undertracked

March 2012

360) VGC - 310,000 / NPD - 371,000 = 61,000 undertracked
ps3) VGC - 229,000 / NPD - 337,000 = 108,000 undertracked

April 2012

360) VGC - 288,000 / NPD - 236,000 = 52,000 overtracked
ps3) VGC - 221,000 / NPD - 167,000to199,000 = 22,000/54,000 overtracked

When you add all of those numbers up in the past 5 months in america the 360 has been over track by 1,165,000 million where as the ps3 has only been overtracked by 176,000-208,000.