The Abrahamic Religions make No Sense

[IIIIITHE1IIIII]

SargeSmash said:

IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

I know I don't care, but not every religious person do live an honest and virtous life. The main point of all my religious threads is to make people understand that sins do not exist. Murder is wrong, stealing is wrong, being homosexual is not wrong, sex before marriage is not wrong, education based on unproven beliefs such as creationism is wrong. I don't mind spiritual thinking, as long as it doesn't contain a law book with bullshit laws. People are falling victum every day because of certain religious movements (note: I'm definitely not talking about every religious person here, but the ones who oppose gay marriage or approve of cutting babies skin without asking them, and so on)

I am inserting logic to a illogical way of thinking. And in a world such as the one we live in, a perfect deity is not logical. A heaven and hell cannot exist if God is almighty.

So, if there is no sin, anything goes?  Is that what you're trying to convince people of?  And if that's the case, then why should you care if someone is for or against gay marriage, or whatever else you're against?  There is no right or wrong in that world, only opinions.  In that world, Hitler is not evil, his is simply his own path to happiness.  In that world, might makes right.  That world may be the most illogical thing of all.

You may think you're inserting logic into this...  but it's logic from your own limited point of view.  None of your opinions on the matter factor into proper religious logic.  Quite a few people have postulated a few ways in which the Abrahamic religions can make absolute sense.  We have no way to actually prove it, so our hypotheses and those theologians far superior to us are all we can give.  Just as, at some point, all of the atheist's vaunted logic falls down, as we reach a point where human knowledge fails us.  We all find ourselves in the same boat.

Yet, in the end, if your point of view is true, then why would you expend so much energy in convincing someone that something isn't true?  If there is no sin, if there is no standard of right and wrong, all that is left is opinion.  It's your opinion that a world without God is correct.  It's our opinion that a world with God is correct.  By your own logic, neither side is right or wrong, the opinions merely exist, and we do all we can to convince others of our rightness, but in the end it will have nothing to do with logic, but with the exercise of power.  And in that hypothetical scenario, the world gets even messier than it is now.

You seem to be confusing sins with breaking the laws. Sometimes they are the same thing (murdering, stealing) and sometimes they are completely different (believing in more than one God, being gay). But yes, I don't think that there is something called "evil". There are actions which directly and/or indirectly hurt others though, and those actions I obviously despise. Same sex marriage is not one of those things, neither is sex before marriage. Do whatever you enjoy doing, just don't hurt anyone in the process.

It is not my opinion that a world without a God is incorrect. Only that if there is a God then he cannot be almighty, merciful and fair at the same time. (check my three previously mentioned scenarios). I don't believe that there is a God though, and that I do simply because there is not a single reason to do so. There is equally as much evidence for the Flying Spaghetti Monster's existence as there is for God's.

Bolded: You should let them read the Bible then. Splitting a lake using a stick does not make "absolute sense".