| binary solo said: Simple logic my friend. Without free will you are merely a sophisticated automaton who seems to have free will. A very small part in the biggest and most sophisticated RTS game ever created. You are merely an extension of God's (the game maker and game player's) will. Thus when you die your simulated independance merely goes back to it's origin, which is God. Doesn;t matter if you've been good or bad, because you are only a simulation and you've played your predetermined part in the RTS that is life. I happen to believe in free will, so therefore I don't subscribe to the idea that it's God's fault that you exist, it's your parents' faults. To answer your response to my first post: Who decides if you're good or bad? No one. Good and bad are intellectual constructs that we use in order to grasp abstract spiritual realities. Your spiritual path is your own to choose. You are responsible for seeking out spiritual truths and rationally deciding whether greed, selfishness, dishonesty and hate (vices); or kindness, generosity, honesty and love (virtues) are spiritually advantageous qualities to possess. If you develop the spiritual virtues in this life then the consequence is "goodness", if you don't develop those virtues and you succumb to vice then the consequence is "badness". Of course everyone is a mix of both, but almost as important as having "good" qualities is the striving and effort you put in to attain the "good" qualities and overcome the "bad" qualities. It's a bit like if you eat you live, if you don't eat you die, is it anyone's fault but your own if you choose not to eat and you die? People don't like good and bad because it comes off as all sanctimonous and judgemental. So you could use other terms like beneficial and detrimental, or helpful and harmful, or useful and useless. I don't think many people attain the level of spiritual development by the end of their lives to become part of the great consciousness immediately. I think the vast majority of us still have work to do after we die to get there, some have a lot more work to do than others, and a few of the most unfortunate individuals possibly don't bring the necessary tools (hint: virtues) with them. |
Okay, I guess I haven't thought of it like that.
For the record, I don't believe in God or Free Will. This thread was hypothetical for people that believed in God / Free Will.
About who should be blamed. I still think the blame, or at least some of it, can be placed on God. Parents may be the ones who start life. But God is the one who makes life indefinite. Keep in mind that this thread was directed mainly at Christians.
You say you believe in Free Will. I'm curious as to what you think determines a person's personality. The only factors I can think of are Environment Factors & innate traits about yourself (Both of these are uncontrollable). What else could there be to effect a person's personality?
