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WiiBox3 on 09 May 2012
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Burning Typhoon said:
Jay520 said:
Burning Typhoon said:

However, just because things are pre-determined, doesn't mean it's without purpose.  It just means that, on another *level* you've already decided how you want your life to be, and the idea was to live life forgetting you had the power to have such a great effect on it in the first place.  So, the more you believe you've got free will, in a sense, the better..  That's the whole point.

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We've already decided how we want our lives to be? So our decisions are already made before we make them? That's deep, but still proves we have no free will. At least not in the present. We may have had it in the past when we've decided our lives.

But, there is no Past...

If you take a peice of paper 2D sheet of paper (well, technically not 2D as it's got some depht), and, roll it's sides together so it's a cylinder, you've taken this 2D paper, and, made it 3D.  Now, if you imagine you're flat, and on this paper, if you were to walk forward, eventually, you'd get back to your starting point without ever turning around.

We are, in a sense, like the 2D creatures on the paper folded in the dimension above..  Any 2D creature wouldn't be able to imagine the 3D dimension.  We're 3D, but, we have 2D vision, and an element of the 4th, time to give us perception of the world we live in..  Without that 4D element, we wouldn't be able to take several 2D images, and get a percepttion of 3D.

We only have 2D vision, because we can't see all points of a 3D object at once, but, we can see all points of a 2D object at once.  A 2D creature (if it were possible for them to exist) would only have 1D viewing... In which, they would, in a sense only be able to see straight lines... So, eventhough it's a flat paper, they cannot imagine a cylinder, it's beyond their scope, but, does it mean they don't exist?...  I'm seriously shutting up now....

Ha I love it. This brings back memories of my report on blackholes and how matter bends time as well as light. This leads into Einstein's theory of time travel or more likely the ablitiy to see the past. Which is technically what we are doing when we gaze at the stars at night. We are seeing how the stars looked hundreds, if not hundreds of thousands of years ago. - Sorry for going off topic.

To more clearly answer OPs question. I feel the answer is no. It is not fair. But God is not a fair God. This is one of the reasons why Lucifer, the most beautiful of all angels, rebeled against God. God does what God wants, not what is fair.

On a related not: Trying to understand God and what God wants is like teaching a Goldfish how to design a space station. (In other words, it is imposible for the living human concience to understand, I'm not sure how things work in the afterlife) This is why the Bible/Koran are so full of metaphores to try and make it easier for us to understand. Also this is another one of the reasons Revolations is a heavily debated book, is it literal or metaphorical or a drug trip that doesn't belong? <- Seriously this is the coolest book in the Bible and that is why so much fiction/horror/scifi look to it for inspiration.