IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
richardhutnik said:
Know about, and architecting a situation are two separate things. Here is something for you: Is it not possible, if God can do anything, to design the universe so everything ends up the way that God would want, while people have sufficient autonomy to show true character and their nature, and have the ability to change who they are? Is it entirely possible, that even in the suffering, it is possible that that could work for a greater good? In other word, local autonomy with global deterministic outcome.
If you want to ponder the part of human suffering further, read the Book of Job, if you haven't already.
From a logical standpoint, what you are getting into is paradoxes regarding prediction. If you can totally see the future with 100% certainty, does that means that you can't change it. A paradox side to this is people want to see the future with absolute certainty so they can avoid bad things happening (or in some cases make wagers to benefit from the outcome). At that point, then the predicting ends up being useless. Beyond this, if accepted, then the idea is that people want to put them in the center of the universe, so what they can do will generate outcomes they desire, with absolute certainty, so they can be able to run things as they like.
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Bolded: No, it is not. Or at least not by logic as we perceive it. God cannot be able to create a scenario in which he cannot forsee each and every event that will occur within it. That would be like I said before: God creating a rock that is so heavy that he cannot lift it.
Underlined: That is an example that I've used myself, but it does not hold in this discussion. For witnessing the future to be useless you would have to be affected by time yourself during the process. God, on the other hand, is outside of the entire time dimension and has all the tools that he needs (his 'almightyness') to witness and reshape the future.
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Why do you consider local free well impossible to be combined with global determinism, where the architech of the environment knows how things turn out and allows them to do so? In short, the game gets rigged so the architect gets what the architect wants, but allows agents in the system to do what they will, within limits?
You also have to ponder whether God would care about the temporary shape of small details.
