BasilZero said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Think about it this way, God knows every possible permutation of your actions that could take place at a given time and the ultimate outcome of it on your surroundings (universe) and your ultimate fate (heaven or hell). So at this instant me moving my hand typing on the keyboard changed some aspect of my future in comparison to if I hadn't chosen to type on the keyboard.
What free will allows us to do is choose the permutation that we want to go down upon, while God knows every possible event that could have transpired at that given time. If we had a sealed fate then a criminal could just say that God made him do the crime, while he had the choice to not do it. |
This makes sense if you assume that God is not almighty. If he is though, then he would know which decisions you will make (and would make in every possible situation).
Bolded: That's my point. Some people are born to go to hell.
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False, I dont believe there are people borned to go to Hell, its a choice, every person has a choice of choosing a particular path like in my earlier example.
For me personally I believe:
Destiny - Humans have options, choices to affect their overall lifestyles and to affect those around them.
Fate - The Final conclusion of a life (i.e. conclusion of a book).
For example, you could be a VIP who is super rich or a important person, you could either go down a path of corruption and controversy inflicting pain to people but still live up to a ripe old age (DESTINY), or you can live a peaceful and honorable life assisting people and bringing happiness to others (DESTINY), in the end there would always be a final conclusion, you could be shot by someone who thought different from you or who was against what you may of done despite whatever path you chose (FATE).
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I agree with what you say, but don't fate and destiny have the similar meanings, at least how it is presumed by people?
I think it might be a bit easier to understand at least for me if you called your destiny by either "destiny or fate" and called your fate "death". Because as you said, you do clearly choose how you live your life, but how you die is up to god and a priviledge only god has alone. Except if you commit suicide, which is considered to be one of the biggest sins.
