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If I just had a penny for every polygon in Lair, I'd actually give a crap. Seriously washimul, once were looking at pictures of the game no one cares how many polygons were used to make the water. Gears Of War looks amazing, so does Lair, beyond that no one really cares about polygon counts. They actually talk about gameplay, try that some time, I have yet to hear you mention gameplay on any game for that matter. At this rate you might as well stare at real life objects they have even more polygons!