Mummelmann said:
mrstickball said:
I was merely presenting part of the other side of the argument. I know what I say isn't going to likely sway anyone, but given that most religion threads are "Bash the Christian believers because they are irrational and illogical", my thought was that it needed defended at least once in some way. My whole argument centered around empiricism. If you must have absolute proof before you give any faith, you're going to likely never find God. If you give any faith, you're going to find absolute proof, I believe. And thats the ultimate point of debate, IMO.
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That is something where we all have to fundamentally agree, such is the nature of faith. I really do appreciate the input, too many people write with fire and brimstone and simply condemn other views and impose their own.
I think what I'm trying to say is; a lot of people have found their faith but I probably never will.
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The most important thing everyone can do is keep an open mind about God, or the non-existence of God. When one becomes too closed minded about such things, it leads not to debate, but arguments, and hatred instead of civil discussion.. Which is something neither the religious or irreligious need.
My honest, full-hearted belief, though, is that if you seek you may very well find something you need, but may not be looking for.
