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DAMN.. that will be a LOONG reply.

@Rath,

Wow really? 40? Can you give me a list of 40 named or announced exclusives confirmed for a 2008 release date?
ATLEAST 40 of them are confirmed.
http://neocrisis.com/content/view/848/
How many of them will be released in 2008, we will know only by the end of 2008, BUT atleast 40 of them DEFINETELY WILL.
Also most major new IPs launch on the currently dominant console. I wonder what that is at the moment.
Assasin Creed? left 4 dead? Army of two? Haze? heavy Rain? Lost Planet? dead Rising? Dark sector? Darkness? L.A. Noire? What you are talking about?

@HappySqurriel,
Look at it this way ...

The PS3 has 14 third party games over 500,000 units sold, 26 third party games over 250,000 units sold, and 47 third party games over 125,000 units sold.
With 9 mln. PS3 sold.
The Wii has 19 third party games over 500,000 units sold, 33 third party game over 250,000 units sold and 65 third party games over 125,000 units sold.
With 20 mln. Wii sold.
In comparison to the PS3, the Wii has dramatically lower development costs so it requires less units sold to break even and a Wii game will be more profitable off of the same number of units sold. How much "better" are third party games doing on the PS3?
With 20 mln. consoles THE sales NUMBER should be TWICE MORE on Wii. BUT it`s NOT.

@Gnizmo,
It did not sell at PS2 levels at $600 for launch, and it won't magically hit that number at a lower point. It will sell more, but not nearly as well as the PS2 did at $150.
Back from the future? how do you KNOW THAT? because PS2 had price 149$ only in May 2004 and sold that year - 16 mln. or 2 mln. less then in 2003. And you know why? Because price halfed only after 4 years! PS3 will half it`s price already on second year. THAT will be a HUGE boost to sales.

What if scenarios do not hold water in these comparisons. We don't need to know what ithe PS2 or anything else would sell like at those numbers because they were never released at that high of a cost, and for good reason. You can compare the GC and PS2 numbers right? Same principle.
Since when MASS MARKET PRICE doesn`t MATTER???

There is a break down in communication here I pray. You can't make the comparison you want for a number of reasons. Mostly because it involves 3 different consoles and using only one market for two of them. That is cherry picking stats at its worst and is not valid.
Why i CAN`T if they PROVE possibility of PS3 doing like PS2 and PSOne???
Then I was right. Some of those games aren't going to make 2008. Most of them are garbage. A list of 40 exclusive games for any system will include a lot of garbage though.
You again about Wii games??? This is Sony thread, NOT Wii.
No. Wii can trump it, and 360 can trump it if you are bringing out PSN games with XBLA and VC. In the end,
you are DREAMING too much.

No, you really can't. The sequels to the franchise (that happen very regularly) stiffle sales somewhat making it a bit trickier than just copying and pasting, Also, the attach ratio is already lower for the game so it is not so simple.
Wha..??? 3 mln. from 120 mln. is less then 3%, whle 0.75k from 9 is around 8%.

Because what if scenarios don't mean a thing. What if Nintendo and Sony made their system together? Would they be at the top? It doesn't matter. We have to deal with the realities infront of us. The PS3 is more expensive than that and it does have competition. This will hurt its sales.
PS2 costed 299$ when GC was launched at 199$, that really hurted PS2 sales. LOL.
When console REACH MASS MARKET PRICE, then price difference doesn`t matter ANYMORE.

And the Nintendo brand was stronger than the playstation brand back when the PS1 launched. The Atari brand was stronger than the Nintendo brand back when the NES launched. Brand loyalty isn't all that strong.

YET, Sony sold 4 mln. PS3 at 600$ price. IF 4 mln. for 600$ is NOTHING for you.. then. LoL.
Yup, they do. SC4, Guitar Hero, Culdcept Saga, Monster Hunter 3, GTA4, etc etc.
That`s only 15% of ALL PS sequels. Why get cheaper system with 15% of sequels, when they can get 100%?

Guess which system will never have a game with Mario, or Link in it?
LIKE 120 mln. PS2 USERS CARED??? =)))))))))
A lot of those titles you had listed are shared with the 360 as well.
So what, PS3 is better then x360 in all ways. HDD, Free online, Reliablility, Power, MANY GREAT BIG AA exlcusive games.

Neither of those are innovative. LBP as a whole certainly is, but not because of the ability to make levels. That has been around for ages. Same with mods. Those are simply nice features.
it`s NEW on CONSOLES.

@Mars,
lol typical vg.

Before it was PS3 is dead its to expensive, now its ohh it wont hit 100 mill. A year from now it will be ohh it might do 100 mill but wont pass the PS2. Then it will be ohh it might come close but wont pass the PS2s 15xx sales.
LOL. NICE. =))

@Renar,
Ummm... look at number of the games released now. With the hype for develeopers to do PS3, and X360 having a year to have games built for it.

PS3 233 games.

X360 321. Better.

Wii 370. 50% more games than PS3.
321 games in 2 YEARS! PS3 is going to have MORE games in TOTAL then x360 by the end of 2008.

@Final-Fan,
It should be obvious to all that the PS3 graph has simply had a Christmas spike earlier than the PS2 graph does, and the PS3 sales are already leveling out and beginning to fall behind the PS2 graph (again).
SO WHAT? PS3 will reach PS2 number later then. NO, it WON`T? BUT it already DID.
Well, that does look pretty impressive, until you realize that AGAIN the graph is skewed by the unsynchronized Christmas spikes.
So, Now with 299 euro price, with Blu-ray winning HD war, with BIG exclusive PS3 won`t catch PS2 on Christmas 2008 AGAIN???

CrazzyMan, is this just you being a blinkered fanboy, seeing only what you want to see, or are you deliberately being intellectually dishonest?
OR, maybe YOU JUST ignore, THAT PS3 ALREADY SUCCEED to CATCH PS2 sales???
YES PS3 will be AGAIN behind, when PS2 sales reach Christmas, BUT PS3 will AGAIN CATCH PS2 during PS3 Christmas. That is SIMPLE.

@Retrasado, yeah we do, but this is just fun and entertaining. =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far