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yo_john117 said:
superchunk said:
yo_john117 said:

If it includes even 1 extra service that normal XBL Gold doesn't have like the Zune Music Pass then your 100% wrong. It's as simple as that...if they include even one extra like that then it really would be a good deal. If they don't, it wouldn't be a good deal for most everybody. But for a few people, especially impatient one's like me, it's the right fit because no matter what you do if you wait you'll save, but sometimes people just don't want to wait and will pay a bit more to get it sooner.

If you've ever payed more for shipping on anything just to get it sooner or clicked the "Buy it Now" button on ebay or anything along that nature, then you are a hypocrite.

MSRP is $59 for 1 year of Live membership... however, you can typically find it for $49.

This deal costs $15 per month.... or $15 * 12... wait for it.... $180 per year. So after the two years you've paid $360 for something that should have cost $100. That leaves $260 to cover the extra features that are not confirmed yet.

You'd require more than any one of these rumored services and then its only a real value if you were already paying for it or already going to pay for it. 

I've never paid for any extra shipping to get something quicker and in fact I try to always find the deal that will be free. As for buy it now on Ebay... wtf that isn't even relevant as many items on Ebay have buy it now that is nearly the same or on rare occasions cheaper than what some are auctioning for... and those are when buy it now is more than worth it.

Don't bother mentioning that I forgot the $100 saved off the hardware because fact is, 360 will be reduced in price later this year and that could be anywhere from $50 to $100 discount, plus you add in the bundled games that always seem to be found and bam.... it's all equal again.

THe only thing this deal does is provide MS with a guaranteed two year commitment for their paid service.

No, all it takes is one single service. Lets take Netflix for example (which is I believe, the cheapest service out there) $7.99 x 24 = $191.76 plus lets say you get a screaming deal on a 360 with Kinect, 2 years of hella cheap XBL and an extra year of warranty for a total of $300. That alone almost brings you to $500. So like I said...all it takes is one service to make that a good deal for some people.

And like I said if you wait you will always save but most people don't want to wait months to get something...they are willing to pay more to get it sooner. And if you're trying to tell me you've never once payed even slightly more to get something sooner or faster then I'm calling you a liar because I'm sure there is at least one single time that you've done something like that.

I used the Ebay example because 99% of the time it's more expensive then auctions.

I honestly don't know why you're trying to debate me on this anymore...the only thing left to debate at this point is whether or not MS will include extra services with that $15 monthly fee or not.

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