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yo_john117 on 03 May 2012
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superchunk said:
enrageorange said:

again your alternative doesn't make sense if you want to play the 360 now. If you call people who take this offer ignorant for not waiting than every single person who owns a current gen console is ignorant because all three consoles will get pricecuts in the future again and people stupidly "wasted more money" because they didn't want to wait. If you want to buy the console now this deal is good, because even assuming nothing else is including in the bundle you are basically getting a 5% yearly interest 2 year loan on such a small purchase. And I won't even consider that future money you give has less value due to inflation. 

Now it is far more likely this bundle will actually include other features and will actually save you money over buying a 360 and paying for all these features seperately. In that case its a ridiculously good deal if the buyer actually wants all those features and only a good deal if the buyer just wants xbox live and an xbox with kinect.

Ummm no buying a product knowing that at some point in the unknown future it will get a price cut or go on clearance, is not ignorant because you are not certain on the timing of the cut. (Like we are now for this years eventual cut)

Ignorance is willfully spending a lot of extra money for the same product. That is this bundle. There is no way this bundle will save anyone any money otherwise MS wouldn't be doing it. They are doing it to prolong the higher margin rate as well as dramatically increase their cash cow.. I mean Live subscription fees.

Buying crap like this and using credit cards on frivolous things is exactly why my country and many around the world are in the economic mess we're in now. People do idiotic purchases because they are impatient and willfully ignorant with their spending habits. I'm not immune to this same thing, but I won't make those mistakes again. Especially with a game console.

Again, smart buyers will recognize that a price cut is coming this year and its better to just start saving $20, $40, whatever they can out of each paycheck and just buy what they want when they have enough for it.

Credit should be reserved for emergencies, large purchases ($1,000s not $100s), and when its building your credit since you're carrying very low balance or paying off monthly.

Don't take this so personally, I'm not attacking you or anyone directly, just the overall logic and deal involved. I just think its stupid to waste money, unless you have so much coming in that it will never affect you. Until that happens, spending over $100 more on this bundle is not a good deal for anyone.

If it includes even 1 extra service that normal XBL Gold doesn't have like the Zune Music Pass then your 100% wrong. It's as simple as that...if they include even one extra like that then it really would be a good deal. If they don't, it wouldn't be a good deal for most everybody. But for a few people, especially impatient one's like me, it's the right fit because no matter what you do if you wait you'll save, but sometimes people just don't want to wait and will pay a bit more to get it sooner.

If you've ever payed more for shipping on anything just to get it sooner or clicked the "Buy it Now" button on ebay or anything along that nature, then you are a hypocrite.