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kitler53 on 02 May 2012
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superchunk said:
crissindahouse said:
superchunk said:
crissindahouse said:
TheShape31 said:
This is a terrible deal for anyone. No one is even mentioning the fact that anyone gullible enough to buy into this new bundle would most likely go over the two-year subscription. So add in extra years of $15/mo. and you end up with a scam. It's not a good deal at the initial 2-year period, and beyond that you'd just be making monthly donations to Microsoft. If you enjoy having money taken from you, then it's the deal of the century! :)

what the? you pay two years and then you buy a gold subscription if you wish to play live any longer

No contract ever just ends like that. It will be as he said and will continue month to month at the $15 rate or MS might send you offers to sign a new contract based on some other percieved discount.

no clue what you are talking about. i take this option and after two years i buy a gold subscription on amazon. where is the problem? i buy a smartphone with a 2 year subscription and after that my contract will end and the phone is mine.

When you sign up to contracts like this, they don't just end like that. You'd have to willfully cancel the $15/mo membership and then get stand alone Live. Otherwise it would continue month to month at $15. That's how any subscription like this works.

Your phone analogy is sort of right, but you forget that after the two years, the plan stays as is and you continue to get charged the same monthly rate, which is my point. Now, this is not a big deal as cancelling is usually not an issue, but MS will likely try to get those people to sign a new contract based on some other upgrade or many people will just not think about it and keep paying even if they are not using the full set of services.

From a business perspective, its a great deal as they can lock in users. From a consumer perspective it is mostly likely not the best value in almost any situation.

i suppose you'll have to argue against mortgages as well then no?  I mean, i would have gotten a much better deal by just saving up enough money to buy a house and in 15 years i'll finally get one!!

dude -- chill.  this is a fantastic business model for some customers that can't afford a large upfront cost.  i would have save 10's (100's?) of thousands of dollars by not taking out a mortgages but fuck that...i wanted a house now.  there will be other customers that see this as a great way to get what they want when they want it.  and that is fantastic business model. 

i actually hope MS/sony both have a skew of this type for the next gen.  could really get the gen rolling much faster if the low income households feel like they can jump into the gen before the 6 year mark.