Seriously sick of the politics threads

[GhaudePhaede010]

PDF said:

GhaudePhaede010 said:
If you do not vote. You win in my opinion.

Every politician is fail. America should be run by the majority and it is not. This is why we are in such a deep crisis.

Imagine if in 2002 George Bush had to "ask" Americans if we can go to war. Our lives might be drastically different if we got to vote on it. You know, if the majority had a say in that instead of the gay sex issues that we were to vote on at that time, maybe we would not "need" Chelsea's mom or Obama's drama.

Anyway, I think America should go on strike and have absolutely nobody vote.

I luagh at all of that.

If you truely understood our voting systems and how the whole voting process works then you would know that a Majority Vote in a place as big as the USA would not work.  If we went to a popular vote then small rural towns and most of the heartland of America would have no say.  Poloticians would only be interested in big cities and only interested in adressing their concerns.  There are a # of different voting methods that we could use that are better for instance.  Going to a distric vote for each state rather than a whole state.  Is that perfect? NO but it is better than what we have now.  We could also force states to give a % of their electoral votes rather than the whole thing.

True our Voting system is broken but that is no reason to boycott it.  You accomplish nothing by doing that.  America is great becuase ever so many year you get to change your leaders.  If you are not happy with your mayor, govoner, or President you can vote him out.  The best way to get us to change is to vote for the candidate you think will bring it.(not any endorsement of Obama)

If George Bush asked us if we wanted to go to war and it was a popular vote, we still would of gone.  Most Americans supported the War at the start.

To your last comment, I said "MIGHT" as in it is undertermied. You nor I have any idea how it would have turned out for sure, but at least we would have had a true say in how it happened. As it were, we had no say and the power is not with the people.

Second, if we went to a democracy, then everybody would have their say. Small and rual areas might not make majority vote, but at least they can try, through any means of media to convince the bigger markets to take a look at issues from their stance. Hey, did we get to vote on gay marriage? But the gays, the ones that it affects, are in the minority. How would they ever get a law passed in their favor? You see my point here? I hope so.

Since our voting system is "broken," how do you propose we fix it? Ghandi showed the world that boycotting and non-violent actions actually CAN make a movement just as lethal or even moreso than thee opposite. It takes a level of discipline and lack of selfishness that most are not willing to sacrifice for, but it really could work.

To tell me to vote, when nobody reasonably represents me or this society in a way that I find productive, is to show the true ignorance and sheep-esque persona that I see as more of a problem, and more dangerous to our brethern than our actual leaders.