Will PS3 top 100 million?

[Avinash_Tyagi]

makingmusic476 said:

Avinash_Tyagi said:

makingmusic476 said:

Avinash_Tyagi said:

Username2324 said:
Or you can hit up this link, showing the PS3 has pretty much identical sales of the PS2 within the same amount of time, so again, it is very likely that the PS3 will be able to hit 100million, the 360 on the other hand, not so likely since its really a America only console.
http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&weeks=200

Or you can realize that PS2 was only in Japan for like over half a year, and PS3 was launched in all three before PS2 launched in NA.

 

PS3 is undertracking the PSP, 40 million is being generous

His chart goes up to 200 weeks, and the ps3 has been on the market for well over a year. After the ps2 had been on the market for a year, the supply constraints had come to an end, so anybody that would've wanted the system would've been able to buy one. Needless to say, a year into each system's life total sales were roughly the same. The same amount of people that wanted a ps3 in the first year and bought one roughly equate to the same amount of people that wanted a ps2 in the first year, and bought one. All of this despite the fact that the ps3 cost $600 for half of its first year.

Avinash_Tyagi said:
Username, there is no such thing as console loyalty, most PS2 owners were casual and went to PS2 because of the casual games, games that Wii now has, and Blu-ray players are coming out cheaper than PS3

The tags in my sig and the sheep in your avatar prove that there IS such a thing as brand loyalty. Who is it that buys a console at launch, despite high prices, the probability of hardware problems, and a meager game selection? Loyalists.

Why is is that the ps3 kept pace with the 360 for most of the year, and outsells it now, despite being more expensive (at times over $200 so) and despite having a much smaller game library? Brand loyalty. Why is it that the ps3 has already passed up the 360 in many European countries, despite the 360's year long head start? Brand loyalty.

Brand loyalty does exist, however how big a role it will play remains to be seen.

False the supply constrainst hadn't come to a close for the PS2 a year in, if you recall it was supply constrined in NA, past its first holiday in NA, which was at the end of its first year, basically it was around this time that supply constrints for the PS2 eased, remeber it launched much later in NA and Europe than the PS3 did

 

Fanboys make up a very small portion of the market, if they didn't we would still be gaming on Atari machines, also my sheep avatar is meant to be ironic, but I shouldn't expect you to realize that. If Loyalty was true it would be passing the Wii, but its not, its not even going to come close, even in Europe its supposed strong point its selling worse, and in NA where PS2 beat the Xbox last gen, its losing on a weekly basis. Brand loaylty is largely a myth, outside of fanboys, which are a very small portion of the market.

Yes, it was supply constrained during its first holiday season in the US. But the ps2 launched on Oct. 26, 2000, in the US, so its first holiday season was only a month later.  I bought my ps2 in late April of 2001, and by this time they were rather easy to come by.  The ps2 had originally launched in Japan in March of 2000, only 13 months prior.

As to your avatar, I had assumed that the sheep derived from the GameSpot System Wars forum, where Nintendo fanboys are referred to as "sheep", Sony fanboys as "cows", MS fanboys as "lemmings", and PC fanboys as "hermits".  I guess I was wrong, and I apologize.

Also, I said that brand loyalty does exist, but I never said that every ps2 owner holds a certain loyalty to the PlayStation brand.  I'm sure many are swayed at least somewhat by name (much like I generally prefer Panasonic and Sony products over others), though other factors can over come this, be it a far cheaper price, and innovative control scheme, or some other factor.  

As I said in my previous post, "Brand loyalty does exist, however how big a role it will play remains to be seen."  So far, it is brand loyalty that is propelling the ps3 over the 360 in Europe, because it is surely not price or game selection that is doing this.  However, initially the ps3's exorbitantly high price was negating any loyalty many European consumers may have had, hence why the 360 was dominating the ps3 in the region over the summer.

Yes but as you just admitted it took after its first year total for its supply to become unconstained, which is why a direct comparison of PS3 to PS2 is flawed, you have to compare regiions and see how PS2 is winning in all except Europe alone, indicating that the PS3 is not keeping pace with the PS2

 Yes it did, and it was meant to be ironic, a kind of humorous poke at the system wars description of Nintendo fans as sheep.  Since from what i've seen Nitnendo fans are not sheep they just prefer that Nitnendo tends to be more forward thinking in their games and system design

 

Yes but as I said if Brand loyalty was as strong as you seem to believe, it would be propelling the PS3 past the Wii in Europe, since europe is Sony's strongest market, however it is falling short, because most don't care about brand but games