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Kasz216 on 01 May 2012
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Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Certain constitutional amendments are needed to get systems functioning again, to turn this pointless thread into an equally pointless personal point. Since the Supreme Court has failed us, we now need an amendment to re-instate Campaign Finance Reform, and also revoke corporate personhood (unless we could allow corporations to be executed like we execute people...)


I feel like you should know what corporate personhood actually means and why the supreme court ruled like it did.


I mean, you can argue that the ruling was a bad thing... but the logic behind the ruling was pretty flawless. 

 

Well i'm aware that the purpose of corporations is to assume legal liability, making it possible for individuals to build business on a scale that no one person could ever possibly be liable for as with a truly private enterprise (if Kaz Hirai were personally responsible for paying all of Sony's debts, for instance), but that doesn't mean that they should afford all rights of individuals including the unbounded ability to influence politics. It's purely a financial role, which does serve itself well.

Right... except that's NOT what corproate personhood is in this case.  It's completely unrelated. 

You never actually read the citizens united ruling?  It was based on some pretty simple and logical assumptions that pretty much everybody would agree with despite disliking the outcome.

 

1) Political speech is the most important form of free speech as all other free speech essentially flows from it.

2)  People are free to assemble in groups... shutting down a groups free speech is just like shutting down an individuals right to free speech.  (IE you can't stop what the ACLU or NRA say.)

3) Corporations are groups of people.

Pretty easy 1-2-3 logic that you can't really rebut... a ruling otherwise, while convienent would be negligent.

 

Not to mention

4) There is no legal difference between Corproations and New Corporations, and a number of New corporations tv shows could essentially be considered "Campain contributions."

I mean, MSNBCS and Fox News are practically 24/hour campaign add stations.