DarthVolod said:
Rath said:
DarthVolod said:
killerzX said:
global warming is the biggest hoax of our lifetime. just 30-40 years ago, the were talking about us going into another ice age. the years will go on a people will realize how much of a scam it is.
remember the green movement is really RED. its communist, its all about redistributing wealth.
the earths climate has been changing since it was made, theres nothing diferent going on. we are safe. |
Pretty much this.
Too many people benefit from the propagation of the myth of global warming in order for them to be taken seriously. Along with global warming comes the "need" for green energy and the "need" to study climate chnage. I don't know about you guys but spending all of my time studying a fictitious meteological phenomenon and clamoring for solar panels every where sounds like a pretty easy and sweet gig job wise ... not to mention well payed since government (which can tax as much as it wants and print as much money as it wants) is footing the bill.
If humans actually have an impact on climate then it is probably an incredibly minor and superficial one that can not be noticed until maybe a thousand or so years from now, but I am skeptical of even this. The Earth goes through natural cooling and warming phases regardless of what humans do.
I am familiar with what you said about a scare over an ice age back in like the 1970s, and the funny thing is that I think it was the right that was mostly pushing it lol. So now that we have had global warming and cooling panics they will have to get really creative with their next big lie.
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There's a lot of scientific peer-reviewed study on climate change, while climate models are imprecise (due to the vast amount of computation required) they generally suggest the same thing - the amount of carbon dioxide put into the air by humans is causing global climate changes including a rising average temperature. That you feel that it's somehow 'convenient' doesn't change what the scientific evidence suggests.
Your hypothesis that the impact of humans on climate change is 'superficial' is not backed up by the evidence.
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We could go back and forth about how much of the scientific community supports climate change, and how much dissents. The fact that there are scientists dissenting fromt the theory in the numbers they are is rather telling when it is almost always in their financial and professional interest to support climate change theory even if they don't believe in it.
Playing devil's advocate though I can imagine that even if humans did have a significant impact on climate change there is really not much we can do about it. Countries like China are rapidly building up an infrastruction and an expansive manufacturing ecnonomy which puts out a massive amount of CO2 in the process all while while laughing at countries like America that shoot themselves in the foot with absurd regulations which kill industry while making them ever more reliant on foreign countries for basic goods.
Unless there is some sort of Orwellian all controlling world government put in place there is no way you are going to stop progress in every country. The good news for climate change supporters is that fossil fuels are finite so we will eventually have to find alternatives ... although I still believe there is a lot of coal around so that will be there for awhile.
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So because it would require global co-operation we should just give up and fuck up the future of humanity?
Also there is general consensus on climate change - http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/04/1003187107.abstract
And yeah coal will be around for a while sadly, even ignoring the warming effect coal is a dirty dirty fuel.
