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killerzX on 25 April 2012
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Andrespetmonkey said:
killerzX said:
bouzane said:
Anybody who points to the cyclic changes in climate that occur naturally as a grounds for dismissing the notion of human driven climate change is grossly misinformed on the subject. The change that has occurred in the planet's climate over the past century is far too great to be accounted for by the natural cycle that the geological records indicate. The level of ignorance displayed by some people is truly saddening, we are dismantling an entire planet for a pile of trinkets and garbage. Once the sulphur being placed in the atmosphere by China's use of coal starts to be settle then we will see a much greater rise in global temperatures, only then may the masses take action. At this point it is far too late to combat climate change though. Oh well, at least humanity will get what it deserves.


please go ahead, live in a hut, and use your on feces to grow you food (though the gasses you give off by doing so will polute the earth)

 

i will continue to live the 1st world live style that i have grown accustomed to and deserve. i will drive my truck because i like it, i will by as big of a house as necessary. i will be my cheap and rather tastey in organic food, i will continue to use plastic bags because it is convienient.

i will live a happy life with with the luxuries that an American citizen should have. i will die living on a planet that will be in virtually the same condition as when i was born. and the alarmist will come and go, and will get ridiculed over and over as they are proved wrong time and time again.

hows that ice age going for you? err its now global warming... er climate change... err

A lot of these things don't only have an effect on the climate you know. I think that's a very ignorant (not to mention entitled) worldview to have. There are many other environmental impacts these things have. 

On topic: As a person who is fairly neutral as to whether humans are the leading cause, I think we should act as if it is true anyway. Because if we don't, and we're wrong, we're screwed. And we need to quit fossil fuels one day or the other, they aren't renewable, they aren't realistic in the long-term, they will run out.

i dont think you fully appreciate or understand that gravity of what you are sayin with this statement. if you did you would not be saying it.

 

as for the first part, i am entitled to what ever i buy and want to use. im not entitled to other peoples property, nor are other people entitled to tell me how to lead my life. if i want to drive a truck that gets 18 mpg because it is the car i can afford and the car i want. then i should be able to drive it. if i want to buy normal inorganic food, because it tastes good, and is significantly cheaper than organic food, then i should be able to buy it. if i want to use plastic bags because it is easier more convienient, and i am repulsed by the idea of reusing an "organic" bag over and over because of the germs then i should use plastic. if i want to buy a 4000 sq ft home because i plan on having a family (i know thats fround upon in the climate change community), then i should be able to own it. i am entitled to buy with my own money the products that i want. other people should not be entitled to my property in the name of carbon credits and climate change.