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HappySqurriel said:
Akvod said:


Yes. Let's go back to the old guild days in the middle ages. You're sound like a classical socialist.

I don't understand your point ... Skilled trades are (probably) the most entrepreneurial and purely capitalist field within our economy and are becoming far more important as fewer people learn how to do the work themselves.

Here is a good video for you to watch:

I didn't watch the full video, because my Internet went out yesterday, and I would support the comments above about more training for bricklayers needed, and less of YOU MUST GO TO COLLEGE.

There is a problem WE (Americans) collectively share.  The problem is that there is a mentality of individualism, to an extreme, which gets in the way.  You have the liberal side that believes the state should support every single wish and whim people have, and fund it.  You have individuals on the conservative side, as demonstrated during OWS buzz talk time, that if individuals can't find jobs, and borrow money, it is all their fault, and they shouldn't of borrowed the money.  Person then washes their hands of everything and moves on.  Both ignore the reality of a social contract, and interconnectedness of things.  The system is now set up so businesses use college degrees to screen people for higher paying jobs.  They also have offloaded their training costs on individuals, through the use of colleges, and required them to end up going into debt to get anywhere.  But is this seen anywhere in the rambling comments on forums like this?  No it isn't.  It is that "you are an idiot for getting a degree in woman's studies" then the person wil end up of degrees that would seem to have work, but still face issues with employment, not showing a connect with reality.  Technical side, for example, has seen programming going into decline in the West, and engineering goes in cycles to and is tied to manufacturing.

Until people see that there are cultural values a society has, and bad ones will cause harm, and can get some agreement as to what these values are and how they are best to be supported, it is just sides yelling at each other and things getting nowhere.