4-year old boy kills father "over Playstation"

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happydolphin said:

superchunk said:

Its not a flawed analogy.

The reason people go on about gun laws isn't because they have the capacity to kill, its because of innocent deaths and accidents. Just like kids drowning in pools.

However, you teach kids to swim, they don't drown. You teach kids about guns and gun safety, they don't die or kill by accident.

The analogy is fine, its the crazy thought that removing the freedom to protect yourself, family, and property with a gun will actually making you safer that is flawed.

@bold. We haven't had that much of a problem here in Canada I'll tell you that.

Give people weapons, you'll need weapons to protect your family, guaranteed. So, what's the root cause of needing a gun, hatred, or more guns? I think the answer's pretty clear.

Yeah, because Canada has no crime. uh huh. 

Well according to wikipedia (of course its sources would have to be checked) Canada and US overall are not that much different in crime rates. In fact it states there are areas in Canada (provinces) that have violent crime rates that would be in US top 10 cities. It shows the homicide rate as only a difference of 1% per 100,000 people. Interesting item in that same area is that 70% of murders in US are from guns where only 30% in Canada, yet we have nearly the same homicide rate. This proves that killers will be killers, even without guns. Difference is, I can defend myself a lot easier from those murders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada#United_States