Barozi said:
cookingyourmama said:
Barozi said:
cookingyourmama said:
DirtyP2002 said:
bertlsenix said:
So shipping is now selling?
So if Sony is suddenly shipping 1389672342 Million Units to africa they are Number 1?
Its kinda funny...M$ only has to ship stuff while the other 2 have to actually SELL their stuff ;)
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Welcome to VGC.
Shipped = sold for the manufacturer. Yeah, Sony would be no. 1 if they manage to sell these numbers to Africa. The point is, you have to find someone buying these consoles.
console:
1st: Manufacturer --> retailer
2nd: retailer --> consumer
money:
1st: retailer --> manufacturer
2nd: consumer --> retailer
So you have to find the retailers buying you consoles, because they think they will sell them. That is the rough part.
So MS SOLD their stuff to retailers. 67.2 million consoles shipped and sold to retail. VGC said that 65.3 million consoles were sold from retailers to consumers. That means according to VGC there are 1.9 million consoles sitting at differnt retailers around the world. This is way too much. 1 million seems reasonable, because this is the average level of stock for the past 2 years at this time of the year. Actually it is just under 1 million.
I hope I was able to clear things up.
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The problem with your point is that Microsoft have just released a new star wars sku, and do you actually have any idea what so ever how many extra hundreds of thousands of those Microsoft shipped into the retail channel before the end of the quarter??? Was it 200,000? 300,000? 400,000? even 500,000?
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lol what do you smoke ? That's a special edition bundle. To give you an idea about these shipments I'll let you know that the previous Call of Duty Xbox 360 bundles were sold out at under 100k.
so the answer to your question would be ~75k.
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Erm yeah do you actually have any proof that the Star Wars 360 bundle shipment was under 100,000? This Star Wars kinect game is a first party xbox360 exclusive that has been marketed and hyped to hell and back, why wouldn't it have a large shipment compared to a multiplatform game?
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- It's 2nd to 3rd party. Publishers are LucasArts and Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't own the IP.
- CoD is a much bigger gaming franchise than Star Wars
- the bundle did not release during the holiday season
- it's a limited edition
- the Xbox 360 + Kinect bundle is not the best selling of their SKUs
- Star Wars Kinect has the highest opening of any Kinect game ever. Did they believe that SW:K sells 5 times as much (i.e. 2m first week) ?
What are you points when assuming that MS shipped 500k bundles ?
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- It's an xbox360 exclusive unlike call of duty
- It's also a kinect game which has the potential to bring in more brand new casual gamers then the 7th call of duty game of this generation, which has already reached market saturation point. If you were a fan of call of duty you'd already own an xbox360, unlike star wars kinect which is something new
- Kinect is very important to microsoft, they see it as the way they're going to 'win' this and future generations, they're hyping and marketing star wars kinect more than call of duty and getting as many star wars xbox's out there is part of that.
- Hands down it is the best limited edition console that has been released this generation, for the simple fact it looks, sounds and works great it will sell a lot.
- Star wars is much more than just a game, it has a huge following and this star wars console will be snapped up by many, many star wars collectors even if they're not gamers
- This is the first major huge exclusive game of the year that has been released for xbox and it's been all most 6 months since the last big xbox exclusive came out so microsoft are pushing this game and bundle hard
- Every shop or online retailer i go to has stacks of these limited edition star wars 360's on display, i can't say i saw any where near the amount of call of duty limited edition bundles over the holidays
When i gave a list of potential shipment numbers i was making the point that nobody knows how many were shipped, 500,000 was just an extreme example. My personal opinion is it's roughly 200,000-300,000.
