shanbcn said:
DirtyP2002 said:
shanbcn said:
DirtyP2002 said:
bertlsenix said:
So shipping is now selling?
So if Sony is suddenly shipping 1389672342 Million Units to africa they are Number 1?
Its kinda funny...M$ only has to ship stuff while the other 2 have to actually SELL their stuff ;)
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Welcome to VGC.
Shipped = sold for the manufacturer. Yeah, Sony would be no. 1 if they manage to sell these numbers to Africa. The point is, you have to find someone buying these consoles.
console:
1st: Manufacturer --> retailer
2nd: retailer --> consumer
money:
1st: retailer --> manufacturer
2nd: consumer --> retailer
So you have to find the retailers buying you consoles, because they think they will sell them. That is the rough part.
So MS SOLD their stuff to retailers. 67.2 million consoles shipped and sold to retail. VGC said that 65.3 million consoles were sold from retailers to consumers. That means according to VGC there are 1.9 million consoles sitting at differnt retailers around the world. This is way too much. 1 million seems reasonable, because this is the average level of stock for the past 2 years at this time of the year. Actually it is just under 1 million.
I hope I was able to clear things up.
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The problem is now days with Nintendo releasing european sales figures, we now know almost 100% of video game market. And on top of that Wii and 360 doesnt even come close to PS3 in developing countries. So must likely MS overshipped unless Europe sales are undertracked which doesnt seem likely.
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I bolded the part where you are wrong.
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Next week nintendo will release sold numbers for european countries. Unless anyone can comeup with solid proof that 360 is overtracked by 1 million anywhere else then sure otherwise accept the numbers.
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So you are telling me that a scenario where MS has more consoles in stores than Sony ever had in its 7th year is more realistic than VGC undertracking some parts of the world?
Please link me to accurate sales numbers for Korea, Brazil, Poland, Mexico, Canada, Russia, Africa, Chile, Indonesia, China etc.
Heck VGC was like 30% off last month for the USA according to NPD. Why is it so hard to imagine they could be 1.49% off for the entire world?
And Nintendo reports their own numbers for Europe according to GfK. We do not get full numbers. We have some over-motivated guys on the internet counting pixels (!!) in these graphs and calculate the numbers like this. Wonder how accurate that method is.
But first provide me the link. Don't answer before you can prove something.
