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Andrespetmonkey said:

Well look at how many people MAG managed to put in their game,

Yes, by having static environments and poor visuals.

BF3 followed the Badcompany way for me, game is not bad but didnt live to my expectations not even in PC.

Yes, ofcourse it didn't, because what is done on PC for BF3 is not possible on current consoles because they aren't nearly as powerful as they need to be to run a game like that to it's fullest, that's why the game had to be dumbed down. 

Sport's games dont really have big improvements in their visuals, so i cant really say they will suffer from it, they have a good performane and i think this one is the most important.

Better hardware will bring better, visuals, performance and animations to sports games. The 2 last are essential.

CoD for example brings the same grphics each year but brings a constant 60fps wich is one of its main attractions ( Maybe the only one) and people are ,saddly, happy with that. Now games that highly depend on visuals aspects might be another thing, Gran Turismo for example.

Cod has dated visuals and tiny, static maps. This is how it keeps that frame rate up. If you want large destructible environments and high player counts whilst looking good and running at 60fps, you need new hardware.

Also with the rumored specs should be enough to improve some of thoset features. The Vita can do cross game chat and it's not as powerful as ps3.

The PS3 can't do Cross game chat due to RAM restrictions (not the amount, but where it's dedicated), the Vita has more system RAM and can therefore do Cross game chat btw. 



yet,i feel Mag achieved a littl more what BF3 should have been. DICE concentrated so much from the begining to make the game the best in graphics that sacrificed other qualities of the  game itself.I would have understand if it were a pc game that was ported to consoles by dumbing it down, but the game looks like it was built for consoles from the beggining on PC. Why not make a game that could have been great on consoles and then updating it later on PC, why not try to achieve this big maps that made BF2 great,  the equal big powerful vehicles that still rquired somr skill or actually making teamwork easier and more rewarding  first? I know there should be a balance between gameaply and graphics, but the later didnt make it for all the things that i was dissapointed with it even on PC, it was a step back for me and could have been fixed without extra hardware...The destructable enviroments didnt affect much gameplay in BF3 i would say it was more noticeable on BC.

Dynamic enviroments, better framerate and high poly counts wont outweigh level design, skill reward, content and other gameplay elements. These could be improved already. Better hardware can lead to better things for sure, my point is i dont think it will really be used by devs given they performance this gen.

Also wit this rumors Ps4 woulkd have cross voice chat easily. No need to go overboard.