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Kantor said:
d21lewis said:
BenVTrigger said:
CGI-Quality said:

d21lewis said:

Remember Heavy Rain? It was a very ambitious game and an attempt to take gaming to another level. I think Mass Effect is a far more ambitious project, however. 

Not to go off-topic, but I would say it depends on what aspects of the game you're talking about. If it's storytelling, I say Heavy Rain has no equal. However, if it's the scope, I'd give Mass Effect the nod. Overall, Heavy Rain is a riskier project than Mass Effect (gameplay, storytelling, type of story), which makes it more ambitious in my eyes.

Regardless, I'm about a quarter of the way through ME3, which is my current GOTY by the way, and the only comparison that makes any sense to HR is the fact that the story is bendable (Heavy Rain more so, I feel). Still, as much as I like Heavy Rain, Mass Effect, as a series, handles some things much better, which is why it would generally receive higher numerical praise from me, while it lacks that "special something" that Heavy Rain had.

Once I beat ME3 though, I don't believe I'll criticize it to the degree that I've seen it receive (if I have any issue at all).


If you put 5 - 10 minutes of actual thought into the ending you will.

 

I'm a massive ME fan and ME3 is a 10 / 10 game until the final 12 minutes.  It litteraly is the most plot hole ridden ending in video game history, its not just a "cerebral" ending as D21Lewis is trying to claim.  It litteraly doesn't make sense, not just as in oh well its supposed to be vague, but more in terms of the entire lore and Universe Bioware created.  There are MANY things that happen during the ending that just aren't possible and contradictions.

 

Flat out it doesn't make sense.


Okay.  It sucks and I was wrong for liking it. I grade video games on a curve because you have to overlook certain things just because of the medium. Now, tell me which game ending ties everything up in a nice little bow?  I can't think of one.

Metal Gear?  Resident Evil?  Mario?  Chrono Trigger?  Final Fantasy?

*edit* I'll probably watch that second video tomorrow or something.  I haven't read this thread, either.  Gotta do both when I get more time.

Only one of those series is actually over for the most part, so Metal Gear:

Yes, it did tie everything up in a nice little bow. It was a little heavy on the nanomachines, but so what? It made sense. It was logically consistent. It gave you no pretense of being able to control Snake's fate at any point. Big Boss strangles Zero and everything is over, and the world is saved, and nobody is going to be killed by an enormous supernova.

Heavy Rain was a point and click adventure with posh clothes. There was nothing risky about it other than it not being a mass market genre anymore. Farenheit which preceded it did the same things it did only less refinded and less polished and more basic level. I think the marketing got to you CGI, which admittedly was beyond fantastic. It doesn't change the fact though that is was a point and click adventure with top notch cinematic value.