Rath said: You've vastly simplified the pretty complex idea of free will. Neither of the scenarios you mentioned being true would disprove free will. Here's a wikipedia article that is relevant to the subject http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incompatibilism |
That's a very interesting article (just read a bit more than half). I guess that I'd identify myself as a "hard determinist".
Also, I love the classic quote that came up: "Man is free to do what he wills, but he cannot will what he wills". I was going to include it in the OP, but couldn't find it back then.