How to disprove free will using basic logic

[IIIIITHE1IIIII]

antunesaa said:

IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

The whole point though is that it doesn't matter if everything is determined or random since both cases would mean that you don't have a free will, as explained in the OP.

You realize that, if true, the impossibility of choosing between alternatives implies that you have no reason, right? Unless you're prepared to assume a magical law that forces material processes in your brains to engender true thoughts. But even the "assume" part is tricky because it suggests free will... And the "magical" part is probably more unpalatable to you than the existence of a mind out of space and time whose thoughts have made free will possible, aka God or whatever people have called it.

Of course. It is our intincts that makes us want things.