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d21lewis said:
BenVTrigger said:
CGI-Quality said:

d21lewis said:

Remember Heavy Rain? It was a very ambitious game and an attempt to take gaming to another level. I think Mass Effect is a far more ambitious project, however. 

Not to go off-topic, but I would say it depends on what aspects of the game you're talking about. If it's storytelling, I say Heavy Rain has no equal. However, if it's the scope, I'd give Mass Effect the nod. Overall, Heavy Rain is a riskier project than Mass Effect (gameplay, storytelling, type of story), which makes it more ambitious in my eyes.

Regardless, I'm about a quarter of the way through ME3, which is my current GOTY by the way, and the only comparison that makes any sense to HR is the fact that the story is bendable (Heavy Rain more so, I feel). Still, as much as I like Heavy Rain, Mass Effect, as a series, handles some things much better, which is why it would generally receive higher numerical praise from me, while it lacks that "special something" that Heavy Rain had.

Once I beat ME3 though, I don't believe I'll criticize it to the degree that I've seen it receive (if I have any issue at all).


If you put 5 - 10 minutes of actual thought into the ending you will.

 

I'm a massive ME fan and ME3 is a 10 / 10 game until the final 12 minutes.  It litteraly is the most plot hole ridden ending in video game history, its not just a "cerebral" ending as D21Lewis is trying to claim.  It litteraly doesn't make sense, not just as in oh well its supposed to be vague, but more in terms of the entire lore and Universe Bioware created.  There are MANY things that happen during the ending that just aren't possible and contradictions.

 

Flat out it doesn't make sense.


Okay.  It sucks and I was wrong for liking it. I grade video games on a curve because you have to overlook certain things just because of the medium. Now, tell me which game ending ties everything up in a nice little bow?  I can't think of one.

Metal Gear?  Resident Evil?  Mario?  Chrono Trigger?  Final Fantasy?

*edit* I'll probably watch that second video tomorrow or something.  I haven't read this thread, either.  Gotta do both when I get more time.

Hey man sorry if I'm coming across dickish I'm not trying to at all. 

And I'm not just bashing Mass Effect, I still LOVE ME3 and the entire franchise.

My big problem with the ending is just simply that it isn't possible.  When you actually compare what happens with established ME lore and what Bioware has told us throughout the entire franchise it just can't happen the way the ending does.

Everything from the moment you beam into the Citadel just does not make sense.  That's why I'm holding out a small hope that Indoc Theory ends up being real, cause it would link everything together perfectly and even set up an awesome ME4 or ME MMO.