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d21lewis said:

halil23 said:
"and tell me if Microsoft and the gaming world are better off with the 360 on the market."
Really? Truth be told: M$ first introduce pay to play on console, first introduce paid dlc, uses own expensive hhd, (notice the trend, m$ loves stealing money and also shows m$ can turn ordinary consumers into idiots that continue to support them, and supporting rrod) money hat reviewers, they even owns cnet which does reviews especially hardware that lowers score that isn't m$, does dirty tactics to get timed exclusives, has the worst failure rate in gaming history, I remember somewhere (consumer affair or some business association, can't remember) said if a hardware company makes product that has a higher failure rate than 10%, then said company has to cease production!! It shows how corrupt business (m$) can get away with it.

Now lewis (ME?), tell me is m$ really better for the gaming world?  It sad to see people continue to support the corrupted instead of the good...    (What the fuck!?  Now, I gotta get ya!)


Poor guy.  No idea what he's up against.......

First off, Sega introduced pay to play on consoles.  Ever hear of Sega Net?  It was for the Dreamcast and it was more expensive than XBL.  M$ used its own expensive HDD but it also came packed with the system for those that wanted one.  It also supports memory cards, external HDDs via USB (Only 16 GB or something, though) and other peripherals.  If memory serves, Sony sold a $99 HDD last gen when all Xbox systems had them for free....and then they released the Slimline PS2 that didn't even support the device.  You speak of hardware reliability but I personally owned two Playstations because the black thingy that held my discs just fell the fuck off for no apparent reason. I owned three Playstation 2's because the first one quit reading discs period.  The second one had disc reading problems and when I opened it to perform a quick fix that I saw on youtube, I broke it.  I owned three Xbox 360's because the first one quit reading discs and then it got the RRoD.  I sold it.  My second one still works.  It's "Kinect-ed" to my TV in the living room.  My second one still works.  It's a 360s in my gaming room and it shares a shelf with my Wii, PC, and PS3.  Sony has hurt me more with their reliability than Microsoft. 

Is Nintendo better for the gaming world?  Remember (you probably don't) when they used to bully third parties?  They used to make them purchase expensive cartridges only from Nintendo and they had to buy a certain number.  If their game was shit, they spent too much on carts.  If their game was awesome, they didn't buy enough carts so they lost out on sales.  Remember how Nintendo wouldn't let companies release more than a certain number of games in a year?  That's why Konami had to create a second company called Ultra Games in the 80's so that they could actually release Metal Gear in the US.  Remember how, if Nintendo was going to releas a game of a certain genre, nobody was allowed to release a game in a competing genre for a certain amount of time?  And yet, Nintendo is good for gaming.  In fact, they're actually gaming's savior after the gaming crash in the early 80's.

Is Sony good for gaming?  Remember how they said consumers would "Get a second job" to pay for the $600 PS3?  Remember how they took features like backwards compatibility from the PS3?  How they refused to allow several 2D games to ever be released on the PS1?  How they made sure that several games were exclusive to their platform and wouldn't allow them to go to Saturn/Xbox during the PS1/PS2 days until MUCH later (GTA)?  The previously mentioned horrifically defective PS1/PS2 consoles ( I remember somewhere (consumer affair or some business association, can't remember) said if a hardware company makes product that has a higher failure rate than 10%, then said company has to cease production!! --sound familiar?)?  And yet, Sony is good for gaming.  In fact, they're actually responsible for gaming going "mainstream" and becoming a more mature form of entertainment.

So Microsoft brings DLC to consoles.  Downloadable games like XBLA, Netflix (almost a year before it came to Wii and PS3--without a disc*), Indie games, Achievements, an amazing web infrastructure that its competitors feed off of, video chat, movies/TV shows that can be purchased, and more.  Features that have become almost standard since Microsoft brought them to market first.  Features that you probably enjoy on your PS3 without a second thought where they originated.....and you question whether Microsoft and its "rivalry" with Sony is good for gaming?  Your PS3 wouldn't exist in its current form if it wasn't for the Xbox 360.  And vice versa.  Microsoft is good for gaming.

Let that soak into your pores.  It's good for the complexion.

 

*I know Microsoft had a deal with Netflix.  That's why Nintendo/Sony had to use discs (I still have the discs!).  It was their way of getting around Microsoft's exclusivity deal.  Still, Microsoft tested the waters and made Netflix a huge success until Netflix screwed it all up by almost doubling their prices.

You pretty much said everything I wanted to say but without the profanity. For that D21 I thank you for saving me from banhood, you are now officially my savior!



                                           

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