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VGKing on 14 April 2012
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Capulous said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

As I said before....if Microsoft gives away stuff, its just as much as Sony would give away to free PSN members. Microsoft would never  give away as much as PSN Plus does. If PSN Plus would be described as something on Xbox Live as far as allowance it would be a third tier ontop of Xbox Live like a Platinum service. The whole thing is basically just one big give away all year if you pay $50 a year. As I said...Microsoft doesn't do this and they never will.

I'd like to see a monthly list of the free or discounted stuff over the cost of $1200 per member.

 

I have Xbox Live...the point reward system is pathetic. Please do not equate it to PSN Plus.

- Renew membership...

- Taking surveys (Surveys are 20 points and they are monthly....yeah)

- Get your friend to join Xbox Live (100 points after waiting 45 days)

- Sign up to netflix under Xbox Live and get 100 points. (I have it but I guess you must get it after the program or something)

-It doesn't get chalked up to your actual account until it reaches over 100 points.

Yes...join our servitude problem and earn pittance points. How about I just pay for it myself? If I want little small thing i'll participate. :)

Rewards program is for loyal customers. I am not loyal to Microsoft and I'm not their dog.



That is nothing compared to getting free items monthly, free games (conditionally can only be played for the duration of your Plus status), and discounted items which there are quite a few ontop of other incentives.

As I said before, Microsoft wont even let me get to my own netflix account if I dont pay them. Yeah...i'll just ignore it and go to my PS3 if I want that. Yeah...fail.

You can say Qore is moot but it was a clear signature of Sony's intentions. If you want to discount it just because its not longer on the list thats you...I'm still adding it because Sony gave it as apart of the package with clear intent.

We don't pay for Xbox Live Insider...I know that much now. So still...what is it that we pay for opposited to standard PSN Plus? Cross Chat? Wait until next gen.

The only free things i've recieved from Microsoft are the avatar clothes and the free games when I paid $130 to them from my 320GB HD. 

Yeah...no...there is no comparison.

On your next post show me the section in Xbox Live marktetplace that reads free or discounted games monthly.

Remember anything Microsoft does, Sony already gives to to the free PSN memebers. Plus gives addages beyond that which Microsoft would ever give.

Microsoft wouldnt even give us the Gears 3 DLC free which Cliff Blezsinski clearly wanted to be free because the fans deserve it. I am so glad they dont own Bioware at this point because the new Mass Effect DLC for multiplayer would have never been free.

Nothing you have said counters anything I mentioned. PS Plus would be a platinum Xbox LIVE? Lol, alright that's your opinion so no point in discussing that.

I am fine with the Xbox LIVE rewards. It is free, you want some free points you do a simple survey. Additional things you do through your time on Xbox can also get you points. It is free, if you don't like it why even do it? Is someone forcing you?

LIVE has weekly sales and discounts on games, DLC, and various other stuff. I do not know exactly how much you save, but it is there. I would like to see this monthly $1200 savings you get as a PSN+ member that you are referring to though.

You think Sony is giving you this stuff for free because they want to. No, they were late to establish any sort of online gaming for console so they gave away PSN online gaming for free to compete. It has improve a lot since it's inception, but since they had to give it away free they could not just charge for it (it is advertised as free as a selling point as well). So they throw in some more incentives to get people to pay for PSN+. If it seems like a good value to certain people they will do it. If not, they will not. You seem to fail to grasp this part. People who see value to what they get through Xbox LIVE gold membership will pay for it. It is obvious you don't, so don't use it. Xbox LIVE can cost anything form $0 to $60 dollars. My last 13 month membership cost me nothing as I got Halo: Reach ($60 game for free when I renewed my membership). Look a brand new retail game for free with my membership. Damn MS. Now my membership is up so I get an offer for 2 more months for $2. Damn them again?

Bioware...well that is conjecture so there is really no point in discussing that.

 


Online Gaming should always be free. Ever played a PC game?
There is nothing "premiium" about online gaming on XBox Live. Those games like COD use the same kind of servers as on PSN, which is Peer to Peer.

Free Online gaming is a RIGHT. Do you know how many people would protest if PC games started charging for online? You know I thinkg Microsoft tried doing that with Games For Windows.. but it got trounced by Steam which was FREE.