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hunter_alien said:
disolitude said:
hunter_alien said:
theprof00 said:
hunter_alien said:
And they are giving away free Lumias for At&T customers :)) My god, how could Nokia fall so hard? Why not go Android, like everyone else did, and save themselves? No, they went WP7, and now they are drowning in their worst decision ever. Dont get me wrong, Im not bashing the OS, its good, its slick, and its fast, but it will never have the marketshare of Android or iOS...

Supposedly, they were paid a very hefty amount of money to go WP7.


Yeah, accept 250million$ and die? Seriously, thats not a good enough reason. Even if MS pays that ammount for the next 3 quarters, its still not worth to destroy the biggest mobile phone manufacturer in the world. At one point they had well over 50% marketshare of ALL the mobile phones in the world. Now they have 23%, and they are sinking like a rock. Samsung an Apple are destroying them in the smartphone segment and soon they will be on par with the likes of Motorola, HTC, Sony and other small players. The feature phone segment is shrinkg every year, and by 2014 it will be less then 10% of the overal market. Nokia is dead if they remain WP7.

You're wrong. As the only WP7 (and WP8) OEM that is actively supporting the platform, they stand to benefit greatly due to lack of competition. They have already sold between 3-4 million Windows phones thus far without expanding in to China, India and USA (Lumia 900 just came out) and without going after the sub 200 dollar market. Basicly 2 windows phone 7 phones, sold in limited markets sold 3-4 million units in 5 months (Lumia 710 and 800).That really isn't too bad at all. Samsung Note sold 5 million units worldwide and everyone is saying its a massive success.

As the platform grows and Windows Phone marketshare increases, Nokia will have a huge advantage of being the best OEM associated witht he platform.

Look a LG, HTC, Sony and Motorolla books in the last year. They are all seeing losses or shrinking revenue in the mobile department and they all only support Android. Only companies that are making money in the mobile sector are Apple and Samsung.


Bullshit! the galaxy note sold 5 million units to date, in 5 months, and lets be honest thats a niche phone, because of its size alone:

http://technorati.com/technology/android/article/samsung-galaxy-note-sells-5-million/

Nokia phones sold often over 100 million and the Lumia 900 hardware is already outdated. Do you trully think that it will keep up, even after the US launch. Lets be honest for a second, Nokia had to shut down their stores in the US, because they had absolutly no brand power there, and they barely sold anything. Their biggest markets, EU and Asia are eaten up on a daily basis by Samsung, HTC and Huawei, and they are in all price segments, and every main Galaxy model sells over 20 million units. And if thats not enoug Apple is stealing a pretty big piece of pie to. US is a lost case for Nokia, and no Nicki Minaj concert will reverse this...


Dude you need to chill here for several reasons:

1. I said 5 million Galaxy notes...I don't see what you're calling bullshit on. 5 million Galaxy notes sold in USA, India and China as well as rest of the world VS 3.5 million Lumia 710's and 800s not sold in USA, India and China. Not too shabby from what I can tell but you may have different benchmarks.

2. Nokia never sold 100 million smartphones. Last quarter they sold 17 million symbian smartphones. They will easily sell as many if not more windows phones this year. Symbian was a burning platform and they had to move...

In comparison, Motorolla sold 5 million smartphones the same quarter selling Android only and much more handsets than 2 devices on the market. Ericson, LG and HTC are in the same boat.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-sold-5-million-smartphones-in-Q4-misses-estimates_id25519

You seem to think Android is the solution to everything and it really isn't. Everyone except Samsung is bleeding money using android and I don't see why you think it would be any different for Nokia. They don't make LCD screens for cheap, or chips like samsung to be able to compete toe to toe with them.