Michael-5 said:
You clearly misunderstood me for the Play, Creat Share concept. I am refering to Kart racing in general (Nintendo made it big with Mario Kart) and this idea is Sony's unique twist off Kart Racing (i.e. what makes LBP racing look different to Mario Kart. Hence a unique twist off Nintendo's Idea. Didn't dodge anything, and I'm being as clear as I can about this. Why do you refer to that drift boost mechanic in Mario Kart as a Manual Speed Boost? It's so confusing. Anyway. I never said MNR plays very very differently from Mario Kart, and yes LBP Kart isn't released yet, but like I said, from this video, it looks like a complete rip off. Where's the confusion? CTR did create drift boosts, which MKDD copied, what's your point? I never said everything in Kart racing originated from Mario Kart. I only said I wish LBP was more original, something like CTR would have made a better game. LBP laso techniques could have been implemented in ways not identical to MK7. LBP had more then just swinging abilities with the laso. I'm really confused, you read my very logical points, and just don't understand them. How do you not see the similarities and refuse to accept the game looks like a clone? Are you just in denial, or just can't accept my opinion. you don't have to think LBP Kart is a rip off of Mario Kart. I never told you to, I only said this looks like one. Why you're making this a big deal.... I dunno. You ->"similar acceleration and cornering performance look like every other Kart game with different characters to me" So.....every kart racer looks like the Mario Kart Formula Nintendo made? What about Diddy Kong Racing/Banjo Pilot, what about Chocobo Racing? Those games are drastically different in structure and gameplay....wow is everything just a Mario Kart clone to you, to the point you can't tell them apart?....scratching barrel.....then why does my opinion matter if everything is a rip off of the gameplay Nintendo started????????????.....barrel...explodes. ----- Me->These games are all very different from Mario Kart, far more different then LBP, you can't deny that. I just wish Sony followed their own formula. You->so since you say that LBP is far more different i guess it is safe to say that you are admitting that it is different from Mario Kart -----Back to me---- You...need to re-read that. Chocobo Racing and DKC look very different from MK, where LBP Kart looks very similar. That's not at all what you interpreted. Boost extendors are flight extendors. Mario Kart 7 is the only Kart racer to have them now (handgliders and submarines), and LBP Kart is copying that.....DKR and Crash never had this feature. Common, enough with the bs comments, re-read what I posted if you don't understand what I said. ---- Me->Not the point, the point is, it's not a rip off like LBP here. you->that's not a point because LBP had lasos in its games before this game was announced ----Back to me--- Laso's in LBP were used more to then just swing. in LBPK they are not, and only mimic the application of MK7. ------- Your opinion, but again I say shortcuts ruin the game yup and your opinion is a VAST minority. as a matter of fact..... ---Back to me--- My opinion is a vast minority, that's why Mario Kart, a game without many shortcuts, typically outsells every other Kart racer by huge margins? If Shortcuts make the game, why don't games like Top Gear Overdrive and F.A.S.T. sell well? It's only ME who complains about shortcuts? I think it's only you who loves them so much. You -> "i can safely say that my opinion holds more weight than yours." Yep...arguement is over. Your opinion is valid as fact, and no one else in the world can have a different one. Forget Mario Kart sells to 1 in 3 Wii owners, it's got no backbone.
Seriously I advise you read my post twice, you're merging separate arguements (LBPK and Sony smash Clone are separate arguements relating to separate points) and making brand new ones up, and at the same time ignoring my points all together. In the end It's really a matter of opinion. I think LBP Kart is a big rip off of Mario Kart 7, not everyone will. Feel free to have a different opinion, just don't say your opinions are facts. |
Aww, how cute ;)
now you are trying to play the victim role and are also trying to back out of your agenda =D
like you are this helpless victim that has been backed into a corner by the BIG BAD PLAYSTATION fans LMAO!!
oh but but but its just my opinion
You clearly misunderstood me for the Play, Creat Share concept.
oh no no no dont even try it.
I understood it pretty clearly. Anybody with a brain can see that you were blatantly trying to say that Sony copied Nintendo with their Play, Create, Share genre
I am refering to Kart racing in general (Nintendo made it big with Mario Kart) and this idea is Sony's unique twist off Kart Racing (i.e. what makes LBP racing look different to Mario Kart. Hence a unique twist off Nintendo's Idea. Didn't dodge anything, and I'm being as clear as I can about this
now you are just struggling to make sense LOL
i just have to say that what you said MAKES NO FREAKING SENSE!!
Nintendo made the Kart racing part of the racing genre big with Mario Kart and Sony made the Play, Create Share genre big with the 1st Little Big Planet(which was NOT a Kart racing game)
so what the hell does the Play, Create, Share genres being started have to do with Kart Racing?
let me answer that for you so you dont dodge this question
IT HAS NOTHING to do with it. You just simply dont know what the hell you are talking about which further proves that your opinions have no backbones
like i said before, an opinion without a back bone is what i like to call "they dont know what the fuck they are talking about"
Why do you refer to that drift boost mechanic in Mario Kart as a Manual Speed Boost? It's so confusing. Anyway.
idk, that's just what i always called it
I never said MNR plays very very differently from Mario Kart
and i never said that you said it plays very very differently from Mario Kart 64, genious
now i think YOU need to reread what i said
i said that you "SHOULD" agree that MNR plays very very differently from Mario Kart 64 "ASWELL?"
go back and reread it right now.
dont worry, its still there, i didn't edit anything ;)
Diddy Kong Racing feels more like Mario Kart 64 than MNR does
MNR's controls and what not feel loose as hell compared to MK64 and any other Mario Kart game for that matter
and this LBPK game looks and sounds more like MNR than Mario Kart(besides other stuff like the laso and air tricks that were already in other Sony games)
that is why i asked that question
and yes LBP Kart isn't released yet, but like I said, from this video, it looks like a complete rip off. Where's the confusion?
the confusion is YOU
because you just simply dont know what you are talking about
CTR did create drift boosts, which MKDD copied, what's your point? I never said everything in Kart racing originated from Mario Kart. I only said I wish LBP was more original, something like CTR would have made a better game
how exactly do you know that it's NOT "more" original? the game hasn't released yet and we dont know anything else about the game that Sony will announce at E3 or before its release. I'm wondering exactly how much "more" original you think this game should be
LBP laso techniques could have been implemented in ways not identical to MK7. LBP had more then just swinging abilities with the laso
wait how exactly do you know that LBPKarting wont implement the laso technique in ways "not identical to MK7"? wow it sounds like you've played the game already LMAO!
i guess you convinced yourself that you played this game already and ACTUALLY know what you are talking about LMFAO
#DEAD XD XD XD
I'm really confused
yes you are, micheal
YES YOU ARE ;)
you read my very logical points, and just don't understand them.
Logical points??
oh you mean stuff like you saying --> "Also while I'm not a fan of CTR (It's like Mario Kart/Diddy Kong Racing with shortcuts (which suck)"
and later saying that shortcuts ruin games while not realising that you are also saying that MK64 and dkr are ruined games with that logic because they too have shortcuts
^^ this is the logic of Micheal-5 LMFAO
How do you not see the similarities and refuse to accept the game looks like a clone?
oh you mean with the stuff like you saying that LBPK is a clone because its karts are the same size as the karts in MK
and stuff like the LBPK being an MK clone because its Karts are too "similar" to MK's karts in your opinion?
lol
your opinions are like no other, Micheal-5
Are you just in denial, or just can't accept my opinion
i usually dont accept opinions that dont have backbones..
i accept logical opinions though =)
you don't have to think LBP Kart is a rip off of Mario Kart. I never told you to, I only said this looks like one. Why you're making this a big deal.... I dunno.
well you said --> This is the one part where I think LBP Kart is unique. The rest is a rip off.
let me repeat that last part 1 more time "The rest is a rip off" <-- you see that?
you're are just slowly trying to back out of your agenda here ;)
So.....every kart racer looks like the Mario Kart Formula Nintendo made?
now you are making an attempt to flip-the-script =D
let me make this clear. "Acceleration" and "cornering performance" did NOT originate in the "MK Formula" Nintendo made
acceleration and turning corners/corner performance have been in racing since the very start
^^this is the kind of logic i would expect from you
at this point, i wouldnt be surprised if you said "well MK used wheels on their karts in the nintendo formula so anything else with wheels is a copy/clone"
barrel scratching at its fucking finest LMAO
What about Diddy Kong Racing/Banjo Pilot, what about Chocobo Racing? Those games are drastically different in structure and gameplay....wow is everything just a Mario Kart clone to you to the point you can't tell them apart?
this is another continued attempt at trying to flip the script ;)
this is about acceleration and cornering performance, not "structure" and "gameplay"
nice try, Micheal-5 ;)
acceleration and cornering performance is unavoidable and is basically in every type of racing game
....scratching barrel.....then why does my opinion matter if everything is a rip off of the gameplay Nintendo started????????????.....barrel...explodes
LOL
i guess this was supposed to be the climax in your little attempt at flipping the script huh?
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
XD XD XD my fucking ribs XD XD XD
rotflmao
You...need to re-read that. Chocobo Racing and DKC look very different from MK, where LBP Kart looks very similar. That's not at all what you interpreted
you just exposed another loophole here but i will keep quiet about it for now and save it for later ;)
Boost extendors are flight extendors. Mario Kart 7 is the only Kart racer to have them now (handgliders and submarines), and LBP Kart is copying that.....DKR and Crash never had this feature. Common, enough with the bs comments
i made up the word boost extendor when i forgot what the other 2 things you tsaid were called and now you are using it as if it was only this 1 thing asked
so you are obviously talking about the "boost turns" and "jump extendor" things right?oh ok
and so only 1 of these is kite things that make the cars float in MK7 right? oh ok
now what about the other thing? the kite/flight extendor is obviously only 1 of either the "boost turn" or "jump extendor" so what exactly would the other 1 be?
hehehe >=)
all that aside for 1 second though.
basically you are trying to say that Diddy Kong Racing and CTR dont look like Kart racing games?
you said --> "No they don't! Have you played Diddy Kong or Crash at all before? No bs replies, or I won't respond to you" <-- you said this as if CTR and DKR wouldn't be worthy enough to "look" like Kart games if they did not have the "boost turns" and "jump extendors"
this is exactly what you asked --> "Do all those games have boost turns and jump extendors?" <-- LOL you asked this as if they wouldn't still be racing games if they didn't have them
i payed attention as soon as you tried to wiggle off path with this but i just didn't want to say anything yet LMAO!
Laso's in LBP were used more to then just swing. in LBPK they are not, and only mimic the application of MK7
you said this as if it is a fact lol
you wouldn't know because they only showed little parts of the game in this trailer and you have not played the game yet so why act like this is a fact when it is just 1 of your no-backbone-having opinions?
;)
My opinion is a vast minority
yep because so far you have proved that you really dont know what the hell you are talking about.;)
that's why Mario Kart, a game without many shortcuts
notice how you said "without many" LOL
MK still has shortcuts at the end of the day ;)
typically outsells every other Kart racer by huge margins?
and of course now you are attempting to bring sales in this lol
well that would be because the game is called >>>>>>MARIO<<<< Kart
i think it is safe to say that everybody should know that Mario has power and brand strength to sell like that
the attempted logic you are trying to push here is that Mario Kart sells that much because it is "without many" shortcuts LMFAO!!
Please, when you take your opinion and use it as fact (literally)....you just present no arguement
you are the same guy that tried to say that Sony copied Nintendo with the Play, Create, Share genre<-- you said this as if it was a fact and then tried to back out of that claim when i exposed that it was a lie LMAO
I expect a little intelligence here
i expected it from you and i damn sure didn't get it..
don't expand your opinion as the opinion of the majority.
you are the same guy that tried to expand your opinion as the majority opinion for Mario Kart fans thinking shortcuts ruin games LMAO!
Like I said I have never heard anyone say CTR is better then Mario Kart
you havn't????
well I'm not 1 to bring up reviews but GameStop said that CTR succeeded where similar games like Mega Man Battle & Chase, Bomberman Fantasy Race, Diddy Kong Racing, Chocobo Racing and Mario Kart had failed
CTR also had higher scores than MK64 on both Metacritic AND GameRankings
everybody that i knew(kids and adults) back then (when i was a kid in the 5th generation) who played both MK64 and CTR thought that CTR was better. I even remember some adults who STOPPED playing Mario Kart 64 when they discovered CTR. My uncle completely gave me Mario Kart 64 because he didnt play it anymore(that is how i got MK64) when he got CTR. we were kids back then so all the other kids i ever knew only really played Mario Kart 64 until they came to my house because that is what their parents would buy them(because they were kids and it was a mario game). when my friends came over they would always want to play CTR over MK64 EVERY SINGLE TIME because i had N64 and PS1. i only knew 1 other kid that had CTR but everybody had MK64 though. that was my experience
and I never heard anyone say shortcuts make the game
i never said that shortcuts make the game now did i?
making things up now are we michael?
and i never heard anyone complain that shortcuts ruin games ;)
If Shortcuts make the game, why don't games like Top Gear Overdrive and F.A.S.T. sell well?
here you are trying to run a mile with that "oh you said shortcuts make a game!!" sh!t that you pulled out of your ass LMAO
IRRELEVANT!
It's only ME who complains about shortcuts? I think it's only you who loves them so much
yes, it's only you and i wouldnt say i love them but i would be a liar like you if i said that i didn't use them though
Yep...arguement is over
good because you didn't prove a single point this whole discussion and you proved that you didn't know what you were talking about the whole time throughout this discussion ;)
Your opinion is valid as fact, and no one else in the world can have a different one.
no, my opinion just holds more weight than opinions without backbones like yours ;)
Forget Mario Kart sells to 1 in 3 Wii owners, it's got no backbone
WII? why do you keep bringing up the MKWII when it was mainly only about MK7 and MK64?
you know what? forget that i even asked...
Seriously I advise you read my post twice, you're merging separate arguements (LBPK and Sony smash Clone are separate arguements relating to separate points)
the last time i mentioned something about Sony Smash bros was in a comment like 4 pages ago LMFAO
get it together dude..
talked about and making brand new ones up, and at the same time ignoring my points all together
lol you must have looked in the mirror and wrote this about the person you saw LMFAO
you described yourself in this part
It's really a matter of opinion. I think LBP Kart is a big rip off of Mario Kart 7, not everyone will
i would agree with this if your opinions had backbones and you actually knew what you were talking about but ok..
On a separate note I think shortcuts ruin racing games, and like most people, I think Mario Kart is the best Kart racer around
you think Mario Kart(which has shortcuts) is the best racer around but yet you say that shortcuts ruin racing games?
^^^ more logic from Michael-5 LMAO!!!!
Feel free to have a different opinion, just don't say your opinions are facts
-_-
maybe you should take your own advice..
