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Michael-5 said:
enditall727 said:
 


This is the one part where I think LBP Kart is unique. The rest is a rip off.

 what does this have to do with what i just asked? i asked "what idea?" The "Play, Create, Share Concept."

you said--> "That seems more like a unique twist off Nintendo's Idea." then i asked "what idea?"

and then you respond with --> "This is the one part where I think LBP Kart is unique. The rest is a rip off."

ok you tried to dodge the question on the sly so let me ask you again more clearly No

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You->the "play, create, share" genre says hello to this lol

Me->That seems more like a unique twist off Nintendo's Idea.

 

You->what idea? Nintendo has never made a new game genre anything like "Play, Create, Share" for you to say that..

How did you miss what I said?

WHAT NINTENDO IDEA DID SONY MAKE A UNIQUE TWIST OFF OF TO MAKE THE PLAY,CREATE,SHARE GENRE?



Words in my mouth, I was commenting on the overall structure of the game. Laso's, Kart size and physics, battle mode, etc

uh no you wern't Mr Micheal-5 ;) it is right there as clear as day

i said --> "the play, create, share genre says hello to this " and then you replied with --> "That seems more like a unique twist off Nintendo's Idea."<-- yea you definitely tried to say that Sony copied Nintendo with their "Play,Create,Share" here


now you are backtracking =D

Was refering to how this feature makes LBP a unique Kart Racer, but the rest of the game is a rip off of Nintendo. Hence PCS is a unique twist for a Mario Kart Clone.

"Does Sony have to use an engine this similar to Mario Kart

oh so you dont want Sony to use a "similar" engine as the Mario Kart engine? well being that its a kart game i cant imagine how differnt an engine could be from another kart game

Diddy Kong Racing, Crash Team Racing, and Chocobo's Racing all play very very differently from Mario Kart, why is this almost identical?


with dash corners

wtf is a "dash corner"? i played many kart games and i never heard of a "dash corner" before. do you mean the little manual speed boosts?? Yes


laso's

oh so you dont want Sony to have "laso's" in Little Big Planet Karting because they are in Mario Kart 7? wait but Laso's were already known for being in Little big Planet so what are you talking about?

Do they have to be used to mimic the gameplay effects pf Mario Kart 7? Sony could have used them differently

and even the kart size

oh so you dont want Sony to use the same Kart "size" as the 1s in Mario Kart 7? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I want something to be different. The Kart designs are too similar to MK if you ask me, but I do like the customized ones.


ok if you want to be serious about it then i guess you should know that Mario is like damn near 10 times bigger than sackboy so if sackboy and Mario got in comfortable fitting Karts respectively, how the hell could they be the same size?

i think i hear some scratching at the bottom of a barrel ;) You are. I obviously meant with respect to the screen and dimensions of the kart.


and physics?"


oh so you dont want LBPK to have similar "physics"? hmm okay i'm going to need you to elaborate on exactly what you mean by this and i want to see some comparing please

Laso's, drift corners, similar acceleration and cornering performance, that whole video looked like Mario Kart with different characters.


However don't you race Chocobo's in Chocobo Racing?

yea, i was going to just say CTR but i just threw in something different instead just for the hell of it =P

Burned you here and you cut it out. However don't you race Chocobo's in Chocobo Racing? Do all those games have boost turns and jump extendors? Diddy Kong was different from MK64 by having planes and hovercrafts, an adventure mode, and overall very different level and item design.

These games are all very different from Mario Kart, far more different then LBP, you can't deny that. I just wish Sony followed their own formula.

Do all those games have boost turns and jump extendors?

yes they do my good sir

No they don't! Have you played Diddy Kong or Crash at all before? No bs replies, or I won't respond to you.


Diddy Kong was different from MK64 by having planes and hovercrafts, an adventure mode, and overall very different level and item design


Diddy Kong racing was also better than Mario Kart 64..

Not the point, the point is, it's not a rip off like LBP here.


"Yes, and you're point> Mario Kart is still the oldest."

what does mario kart being the "oldest" have to do with what you said?

People have been copying Mario Kart for a long time? Do I have to spell things out for you?

you said --> "Just with this and the upcoming Smash Brothers clone, it seems Sony is trying to expand their library by copying Nintendo"

and you were refering to the 2012 non released Little Big Planet Karting game when you said "this" so what the hell does Mario Kart being the "oldest" have to do with Sony making other Kart games before LBK?

No I didn't they are separate arguements separated by a quote from you.

you said that Sony is "copying" nintendo with this new 2012 LBK game and the smash bros clone..

ok, you lost me..How?

COMMENT # 2

...The worst maps in Mario Kart are the ones with major shortcuts.

blame Nintendo instead of CTR for that, smart guy

CTR is worse then MK64 because it has shortcuts and the few shortcut maps in MK64 are the worst? Do you understand the point? Shortcuts suck!

Why race on the track if everyone is going to try to use them?
to win maybe? DERP



What makes Crash even worse is most shortcuts can be reached without the use of special items.
so you think that most of the shortcuts should be non reachable without the use of special items?

 Yup

Makes the map design feel poor if you ask me.
when a shortcut makes a map worse(what you claimed for Mario Kart) i would say THAT makes the design feel poor if you ask me ;)

Shortcuts make all maps worse, even that map in the OP would have been better without it.


Everyone has an opinion, but 30+ million people seem to think Mario Kart Wii is the best
Mario Kart 64 sold 9.8 mill and Diddy Kong Racing sold 4.88 mill so i dont know what the hell MKWii has to do with MK64 and DKR

you lost me on this 1 aswell -_-

You're easily lost then I see. Mario Kart Wii sold 30+ million meaning that 30+ million console owners now think Mario Kart is the best Kart racer. Yes MK64 only sold 9.8 million, but it just shows how the franchise is snowballing and how the more people play Mario Kart, the more hooked they get.

 

Diddy Kong shortcuts were nowhere nearly as major as Crash, and depended on the vehicle you raced in

and thats why CTR is better ;) Your opinion, but again I say shortcuts ruin the game - it isnt just 1 straight boring path each time you race EVERY SINGLE TIME Yes it is, it's just not the main path. CTR implemented shortcuts a hell of a lot better than DKR and MK64

unique and hidden shortcuts just adds that much more to the experience ;)
Not to me and apparently the very massive Mario Kart userbase agree's

"Who does? Really? seriously?"

EVERYBODY!! this is the 1st time in my life i've EVER witnessed somebody actually trying to complain that shortcuts are bad in a kart racing game LMAO

??????I don't believe you...it's like you're trying to tell me that an Apple is an Orange. It's just....no. Mario Kart is the best (as shown by it's complete dominance in sales and reputation), and Sony is trying to copy with LBP racing.


The track in the video was a temple and forest, it's texture lacking and balnd....


you mean bland? lol they still loooked better than MK64 and DK64 though ;) In your opinion


but MK64 was an early N64 game, and CTR came out near the end of PS1's life

yea that makes a difference because everybody knows that Nintendo sets limits to its hardware near the beginning of a generation (sarcasm)

Nintendo still had the more powerful hardware(ps1 was 32 bit while N64 was 64 bit) ps1 had the superior game on inferior hardware

there is no excuse

N64 was 2 years newer than ps1, sorry ;)

Doesn't matter, Nintendo was also inexperienced making 3D games when N64 was new. Just like every console, the best looking games come at the end of life because devs are aware of the technical limitation, know how to max out the system, and have dev kits which do it more easily.


would be better then an MK clone.

you damn right it would! its already confirmed that it will be more like CTR


However I think DKR and old MK's are better

i highly disagree ;) Fine, I highly disagree with you, it's opinion, now let's stop talking about CTR


Mario Kart DS is probably the best Kart game ever, really amazing level design

yea its a good game but its missing stuff that Diddy Kong racing and CTR had so of course i also highly disagree with this aswell

I just don't understand how you put CTR on the same level as Mario Kart and DKR... It's like comparing Rogue Warrior to Halo or Killzone.



The "Play, Create, Share Concept

STOP DODGING and show me an example of the supposed Nintendo "play, create, share" idea that Sony supposedly copied

nintendo never even really had a network to where you could upload created content from 1 of its games that other people can play so i am going to love seeing what you try to come up with ;)

 

No

oh YES! you definitely dodged it because you have still yet to show the Nintendo idea that Sony "uniquely twisted" that resulted in the "Play, Create, Share" genre


How did you miss what I said?

oh please..

everybody knows that you are talking about the Play, Create, Share concept

SHOW THE NINTENDO "IDEA" THAT RESULTED IN SONYS PLAY, CREATE, SHARE, GENRE

 

 

Was refering to how this feature makes LBP a unique Kart Racer, but the rest of the game is a rip off of Nintendo. Hence PCS is a unique twist for a Mario Kart Clone.

this makes no sense..

 

Diddy Kong Racing, Crash Team Racing, and Chocobo's Racing all play very very differently from Mario Kart, why is this almost identical?

so you should also agree that MNR plays "very very" differently aswell? and you should ALSO agree that LBPKarting plays "very very" differently aswell right? oh wait, LBPKarting hasn't even released for anybody to know yet

just saying..

 

Yes 

the manual speed boosts were in CTR so why act like LBPKarting copied it from MK7?

you are saying that LBPKarting is copying MK7 for being able to manually speed boost..

 

(((barrel scratching!)))

 

Do they have to be used to mimic the gameplay effects pf Mario Kart 7? Sony could have used them differently

so LBPKarting is copying MK7 because you might have to use a laso to swing across a gap to reach another platform even though it was already being used in older LBP games?

;)

 

another barrel scratching..

 

I want something to be different. The Kart designs are too similar to MK if you ask me, but I do like the customized ones.

so LBPKarting is copying MK7 because the kart designs are supposedly "too similar" to your liking?

 

yet again another barrel scratching..

 

You are. I obviously meant with respect to the screen and dimensions of the kart.

no its CLEARLY obvious that YOU are the one barrel scratching here. you complained about LBPKarting's Karts being the "SAME SIZE" as the Karts in MK

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

this sh!t here is ABSOLUTE COMEDY XD

 

Laso's, drift corners, similar acceleration and cornering performance, that whole video looked like Mario Kart with different characters. 

what are drift corners?

similar acceleration and cornering performance look like every other Kart game with different characters to me

more barrel scratching..

 

LMAO @ this drift corners, similar acceleration and cornering performance part

 

Burned you here and you cut it out

the only part i cut out was when you said that you didnt know because you didnt play those games ;)

 

These games are all very different from Mario Kart, far more different then LBP, you can't deny that. I just wish Sony followed their own formula.

so since you say that LBP is far more different i guess it is safe to say that you are admitting that it is different from Mario Kart

i take it that you are talking about LBPK when you say "LBP" because there would be no reason for you to compare the older Little Big Planets to those racing games

unless you just simply dont know what you are talking about

;)

 

No they don't! Have you played Diddy Kong or Crash at all before? No bs replies, or I won't respond to you.

yea i played them and i really dont know what the hell those things are(boost extendor or whatever and the other thing you said) but i think you are talking about regular boost pads on the ground and the ramps

and yes they have them

yea, i think it's pretty safe to say that YOU havn't played Diddy Kong and CTR before

and what do they have to do with anything anyways? if a kart game doesn't have boost pads it is still a kart game..

 

and would it make any difference if you are scared to reply? you are dodging my questions anyways so it wouldn't make a difference ;)

 

Not the point, the point is, it's not a rip off like LBP here.

that's not a point because LBP had lasos in its games before this game was announced, speed boosts have been in sony games for YEARS

 

People have been copying Mario Kart for a long time? Do I have to spell things out for you?

you said that Sony was copying Nintendo with THIS SPECIFIC LBPK GAME

SONY has had kart games BEFORE this game was announced and the laso was ALREADY in Little Big Planet

so what exactly is LBPK copying from MK7? that hasnt been seen in other Sony games?

^^you cant answer this question with a logical answer so i expect this to be dodged ;)

 

No I didn't they are separate arguements separated by a quote from you.

no, they are arguements pertaining to the same thing

nice dodge again

you love to avoid things dont you Micheal-5? LMAO

 

How?

you said that LBPK is copying MK7

even though anything that looks similar to MK7 in this LBPK trailer has already been done in Sony games BEFORE MK7 WAS RELEASED

then you jump to saying that people have been copying Mario Kart for a long time

that is how you lost me

 

SECOND PART

 

CTR is worse then MK64 because it has shortcuts and the few shortcut maps in MK64 are the worst? Do you understand the point? Shortcuts suck!

okay so you pretty much hate shortcuts, i get it

now let me tell you what your problem is

you think MK64 shortcuts suck so you criticise every other game that gets it right just because they sucked in Mario Kart64 <-- that pretty much sums it up

 

or maybe it's just a hidden agenda.. hmm ;)

 

Yup

and now here you are basically agreeing that you think that most of the shortcuts should have been non reachable without the use of special items like they supposedly are in MK but on the other hand you are basically saying that you just simply dont like shortcuts and they ruin a game

 

and this is the breaking point that proves that your whole opinion has no backbone

;)

 

Shortcuts make all maps worse, even that map in the OP would have been better without it

this is hard to take seriously now because your opinions have no backbones

 

You're easily lost then I see. Mario Kart Wii sold 30+ million meaning that 30+ million console owners now think Mario Kart is the best Kart racer. Yes MK64 only sold 9.8 million, but it just shows how the franchise is snowballing and how the more people play Mario Kart, the more hooked they get.

yea i am easily lost when i am talking to individual's like yourself ;)

and i dont know why somebody would bring up  MKW into something about MK64

 

Your opinion, but again I say shortcuts ruin the game

yup and your opinion is a VAST minority. as a matter of fact, your opinion simply has no back bone

an opinion without a backbone is what i like to call "they dont know what the fuck they are talking about" ;)

 

Yes it is, it's just not the main path

whenever you are able to say "the main path" thats how you know it has shortcuts

 

Not to me and apparently the very massive Mario Kart userbase agree's

 

Mario Kart users dont complain about shortcuts, its only YOU

dont try to throw Mario Kart fans in this especially when you dont know what the hell you are talking about ;)

 

??????I don't believe you...it's like you're trying to tell me that an Apple is an Orange. It's just....no. Mario Kart is the best (as shown by it's complete dominance in sales and reputation), and Sony is trying to copy with LBP racing.

no no no

YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON I HAVE EVER WITNESSED ON THE INTERNET AND IN REAL LIFE THAT HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT KART GAMES HAVING SHORTCUTS

In your opinion

i can safely say that my opinion holds more weight than yours because your opinions HAVE NO BACKBONE and i think anybody can clearly look at ANY CTR track and honestly tell you that they are more detailed than the tracks in Mk64 AND DKR ;)

 

Doesn't matter, Nintendo was also inexperienced making 3D games when N64 was new. Just like every console, the best looking games come at the end of life because devs are aware of the technical limitation, know how to max out the system, and have dev kits which do it more easily.

yea, it doesn't matter because PS1 hardware was 2 years inferior to N64s hardware and CTR was still the better looking game ;)

 

Fine, I highly disagree with you, it's opinion, now let's stop talking about CTR

you want to stop but you keep mentioning it though, that makes a lot of sense

at this stage, i am just pulling at your agenda to watch you respond ;)

we all know that it was originally about CTR having the shortcuts then you had to expand your agenda to it being about ALL kart games having shortcuts to disguise the fact that you were only going at CTR because it was a Sony game LOL

Everytime i go at it with somebody i just sit back and watch as they expand and backtrack their agenda LMAO and All the loopholes and no-backbone-having opinions fall apart and get exposed LMAO

..its funny as hell really

 

I just don't understand how you put CTR on the same level as Mario Kart and DKR... It's like comparing Rogue Warrior to Halo or Killzone.

no, i put CTR and DKR on a HIGHER level than MK64

and i put CTR on a higher level than both MK64 and DKR