| CrazzyMan said: now I wonder how you can even compare PS2 to PS3 sales.... both console don't occupy the same position on the market... PS2 was the lower tech when PS3 is the higher one, the prices are not comparable and the market changed a lot since then.... it's like comparin the sales of the first motorola GSM with the razor today..... You got the point. =) BUT i just LOOK(compare) at sales. If ps3 will sell less then 16 mln. it`s not a bad thing. BUT it`s JUST interesting to see how PS3 will do compared to PS2 sales. =) I would then call that a total crash not being able to catch more market share the first Christmas holiday against a console which has been around longer.... longer.. and having bigger game library. =)@endimion, next PS3 still DON`T have it`s killer`aps. =) It just have GOOD games, though unchatrted is really great one. And for other people, games like ratchet and heavenly sword also great experience. =) Btw, you can just compare only december ps3/x360 sales, ps3 still did more. =) And ps3 is outselling x360 every week since 2008, even earlier. =) now I wonder why people think every PS2 user is going to shift to PS3 at some point??? looking at the difference in generation there is absolutely no sign or reason to believe that... ps2 had over 30 game series, which will get their sequels on ps3, and most of them exclusively. =) other point, do you really all believe there is actually 114 million+ PS2 user out there ???? a good part of it is rebuy, for the second if not the third time just look at GT5 or FFXIII ingam graphics. I am not fan of racing games, but i am fan of jrpg games. Is there any other reason, why anyone wouldn`t like to play this games? =) final point PS2 is still selling strong I highly doubt that people who just bought a PS2 in 2007 are just about to shit to the PS3..... 2010-2011. :) that said I really don't see the point in comparing sales number between those 2, however you chose to put it.... *THE MAIN POINT of THIS THREAD - is to SEE how far/close will PS3 be in 2008 compared to PS2 with it`s 16 mln. consoles sold in 2001.and I still don't believe PS3 can win on brand name anymore.... what PS3 can hope to do is save the PS console all together on the long run... good quality hardware, good quality software make a BRAND. =) Hardware quality for now workign on PS3 brand, later this year games quality will work. =]@Road, oh, that`s why PS2 got 40k increase during this week. =) PS3 got Burnout 5 release this week, though game is multi, but still. =] But yeah, i expect to see ps3 favour over ps2 getting down this week, but will get up next week thnx to dmc4 bundle in Japan. +If rumor of ps3 pricecut in usa will become true.. then sales will just skyrocket, if not, we will se how ps3 will do. :) @endimion, i would suggest you to make conclusions after 2008. =) Just half year ago PS3 was doomed, now arcticles speak about ps3 comeback. And by the end of 2008 they will just recomend buy only ps3. =)) If you want to compare M$ and Sony companies, create a thread, and i will give you facts why Sony is a BIGGER company, then M$. =) |
yeah you still don't get that even though Sony wishes that the PS3 is a long term product... the market won't react like that..... with probably a new console for nintendo around 2010 or 2012 and same for MS... Sony's wishes are far from granted.... what i'm saying the more time goes the less hope they have.... they did a big mistake thinking they can sell a $600 piece of equipement just on brand name when it comes to gaming.... they are paying the price now... by 2010-2011 it will be too late... you could release ExiStenZ on it, it wouldn't change the shape of the market....
right now articles talking about a come back of PS3 are morons.... they didn't prove anything beside that with a price cut before chrismtmas in europe where it's there first holiday you can outsell MS.... and recommending only buying one console is even more moronic... first off a journalist telling me just one console is good I dump the magazine right away... even if he says that about XB... it's totally biased and reduce greatly his credibility... without saying that a market with one single product is not competitive and it's not in favor of us consumers...
PS3 is still officially doomed... there is no insubstantial evidence of the opposite yet... which makes me agree with you on one point we'll see clearer at the end of 2008, thing I have been saying for ever but I'm sorry right now you can only rely on hope for PS3 nothing substantial can be used to sustain that PS3 we'll be doing good... not even big game names...
now when you tell me quality hardware and software make a brand name.... I'm sorry it's true and not true at the same time.. it might make the brand name but not the sales... i'm pretty sure everybody agrees to say MS windows is not the bast soft in the world and it's number one though.. same with a lot of products... and I'm sorry but in hardware... beside really expensive high end product and professional hardware.... Sony is far from being a quality company... it is in the head of consumer but the fat prove the opposite... I can give 2 areas where they are good and that's it.... high end camcorder and high end lcd and even on the last one I could argue it... but they hold an acceptable good quality... almost everything else can be qualified of poor or over priced....
So I agree with you by the end of 2008 we will see if PS3 can hope to come back in the race..... until then wait and see... but the past experience of the market and the fact that nobody has subtential economical facts is not showing a lot of positiv for PS3.... not even big titles coming in june.... they need a bump in every quarters if they want to come back... the three main franchise everybody name.... have really little chance to give the momentum needed... they'll sell console but will they sustain the momentum??? I honestly don't think so... except if MS totally blew which I highly doubt...
you are all talking about what Sony will do to save PS3, you are all totally forgetting what Nintendo will do in 2008 to keep the WII frenzy going, and what MS will do for XB to counter Sony.... and you can mark my word you'll have competition... what you have seen this year for XB is just the start the future will be even better in term of line up I'm deeply convinced of it... and PS3 will have a lot of competition purely in term of game for a long while to come...
Anyway this generation (WII,PS3,XB) will all reach level of gaming experience never reached before and that my friends should be all we need to be happy as gamers...
