Sony console sales 2007

[dschumm]

dbot said:

Gnizmo said:

dbot said:

dschumm said:
I always find this arguement frustrating. The PS2 and PS3 don't exist in bubbles serperate from each other. Same as the Wii and PS3. Wether you like to believe it or not some people have purchased the Wii and because of the have delayed or canceled plans to buy a PS3. Same with PS2. Some people who went to the store specifically chose to get a PS2 instead of a PS3 and now are probably not buying a PS3 any time soon. I think that huge PS2 sales are HURTING Sony not helping.

I would make the arguement that the portables are competing with the PS3 as well to some extent(see Japan). But I am not going to waste anyone's time convincing them of that.

Most PS2 consumers are either replacing a broken PS2 or are late generation purchasers, who wont be selecting a system until long after the war is over. They will wait unitil the one of the wii/ps3/360 is under $150 and has the lion's share of the games produced.

Stop repeating Sony's talking points. I agree that Sony had a better year than people wanted to give them credit for but 2007 proved that last generation's influence isn't going to decide anything.

I am not aware that I am repeating any "talking points". I have been hesitant to post on this site because it seems as though any pro-sony or pro-ms comments are immediately dismissed as being "fan-boys". I assure you that I am not a fan-boy.

Personally, I think the Wii's sales should be compared solely to the PS2's sales (standard definition and sub $300) and the 360 to the PS3 (high definition and higher price points).

 

 

Why on earth would you not compare two competing products? The higher price point does not put the other consoles in a different market. If it did we would compare 360 Core sales to 360 Premium. I would bet your average consumer does not want to buy more than one game console in a generation. As a result any console sold by your competitor can be viewed as a bad thing for all competing consoles.

I think the Wii appeals to a different market segment. IMO, someone considering a PS3 or 360 is not considering a Wii. I view a Wii sale as a lost PS2 sale not as a lost PS3/360 sale. Consoles should be compared by class and that is defined by features and price point. If you look at the features of the Wii, they are closer to the PS2 than they are to the 360/PS3. This is the same reason I did not include the PSP and DS in my original post.

The purpose of my original post was to point out that Sony did a good job in selling consoles in 2007 compared to the competition. Sony is not tied to the success of one console at the moment, unlike their competitors. They are trying to maintain sales of the PS2 and grow a new product line.

To simply say Sony sucks based on the number of PS3s sold is short sighted and an incorrect thought.

 Last generation I bought a PS2 at launch. I bought a Gamecube when it dropped to $99. The reason. I liked the games and features on the PS2, I also needed a dvd player. Also the Gamecube was too much like the n64 in my opinion, so I waited.

This generation I thought the Wii had more features and games I wanted. The PS3 had a high price with games coming later. So I bought a Wii at launch , and will buy a PS3 when it is $199 and I can get FFXIII. Had the Wii really been a gamecube 2 I would probably have purchased the PS3 already. I know I am just one person but I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way.

If you think the 360 is the only compitition for the PS3 , are you assuming Sony would be happy that those 80 million casual gamers who bought a PS2 not  get a PS3?

As for  $129  being so much closer to $249 than $399 that is a strech. If you wanted to say PS2 vs. DS becasue they are both established and  same price I might give that too you.

I too think people have been too hard on Sony. I myself proclaimed that they were finsihed the middle of last year but now I am seeing enough life to believe that the market can support 3 consoles and the PS3 has a solid chance of passing the 360.