"Wii U hardware is on par with current gen consoles"

[Mr Khan]

UnitSmiley said:

Roma said:

concity06 said:

It's funny when people say the Wii aren't winning this gen.  They are winning this gen!!  In football if one team has more talent then the opposition, but the opposition team wins then they won.  It doesn't matter who has more talent, what matters is who wins.  The goals for a company is to collect profits, gain market share and sell more then their competition.  The Wii didn't have the best 3rd party support, but they are still winning with less talent in some people's eyes anyways.  I think the Wii's 1st party games are fun as hell personally.  I like them enough to purchase a Wii.  But my grandma has one so I'm good just playing it at her house.

you only win if you're not Nintendo

Now that Nintendo is on top the rules have changed. Now wining is when you have more 3^rd party games and if your console sells more than the winning console at the end of a generation.

There is a huge debate (and rightfully so) between people who think selling more = winning.

I'm a fan of both Nintendo and Sony. Nintendo definitely won when it comes to sales, nobody is trying to argue that. But most of their sales have been from soccer moms and little kids. Yeah, they had some great core titles, but they were few and far between.

Now compared to say Sony, Sony decided to use the most powerful hardware they could (more powerful than the wii and 360  anyway) and due to its price point and crappy launch, it cost them. However, they have always had a lot of really good core games that appeal to the hardcore crowd. (by that i mean not soccer moms and kids/casuals).

There is nothing wrong with Nintendo widening it's audience, but a lot of core Nintendo fans have felt left a little dissapointed. I still appreciate what Nintendo has to offer and I'm on board for the Wii U when it comes out, and a PS4 whenever that comes out. Basically i think back say in the 90's one could have a better arguement that sales = win. But now that more people (casuals) have entered the market, i think it should be about what the company offers core gamers, that decides who is victorious. In my opinion anyway.

Objectivity, as Morenoingrato said. You can't deviate from sales because then you wade into the realm of subjective. I mean, look at how radically certain games were reclassed as "core" going into this generation. Last generation, forums would have been flooded with people knocking those damn GTA-playing casuals.