Vertigo-X said:
Zim said:
You know I kept seeing topics like this and thinking ''Oh it can't be that bad''. People complain about endings for everything.
Now some background for you. Mass Effect is my favourite game series. It may in fact be my favourite narrative series of any media (books, films, tv series etc). Garrus is again possibly my favourite character in anything. I loved every single moment of ME1, ME2 and ME3.........
Except the last 15minutes. I have never ever seen such a catastrophically bad ending. I mean even the Death Note anime which has one of the best first halves of any series then an embarrassingly terrible second half looks like a masterpiece compared to this.
It simply doesn't fit in with the trilogy in the slightest. Nor does it fit with what they said. They talked about how choices you made would mean the ending was special to you. However really there is just one ending with tiny variations. ME3 is FULL of amazing consequences. That one guy you spoke to for 10minutes, coming back up and how you treated him being important. Yet the ending nothing you did really matters. That ending had no relevance to MY Shepard.
Just crazy how poorly it's handled. For the ending to a trilogy it is shockingly short, it creates entirely new pieces of lore in this time that don't necessarily fit the universe, gives almost zero closure, is totally out of tone with the other 100 hours or so of games and ignores any player preference! Well and truly maddening. The lack of closure is the worse thing. The entire point of the game is getting support from different factions, then the ending doesn't even show what if anything has happened to them.
I don't even understand how they messed up so bad. The ending of ME2 was great. Relationships and how prepared you were mattered. You had to make choices that had consequences but you could choose based on how you viewed your character etc.
This and Tali's face really make me wonder if Bioware actually purposefully wanted to make some fans angry. |
It is precisely why the indoctrination theory holds so much weight. That nonsensical ending sequence after Shepard goes unconcious from the Reaper attack seems to indicate he is in a dream/being indoctrinated when he is talking to the boy-God.
I mean, think about it. Whywould the boy-God be a boy in the first place? If what some people believe about the boy not existing at all earlier is true, then there's the possibility that the Reapers drew from his mind to use the boy's image. I don't think the Reapers were able to project the imagination of the boy into Shepard's mind that time on Earth and each time he slept. And if the boy actually did exist was he a projection of the boy-God the whole time? I doubt it.
A lot of things combine in those 15 minutes that seem to support the indoctrination theory, IMO.
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Right but the problem with that theory is if it turns out to be true then we don't even actually have an ending. It would be like if star wars ended just before the fight between Vader and Luke and destroying the Death Star. The theory fits with the dreadful ending we have been given mostly, however it means the game hasn't even ended. It would mean that Shep is knocked out just before reaching the beam, thus him waking up in the rubble in the destroy/fight indoctrination ending. The war is still going on and we are still waiting to see what the outcome is.
However the indoctrination theory is pretty flim flam and fanmade. It still doesn't explain everything, like how even in some endings after Shep is 'dead' or has resisted the indoctrination you see the normandy land. If he has already accepted indoctrination or resisted it then why would that normandy scene exist? The scene with the old man telling the child about 'The Shepard' etc.
