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Rath said:

I find some of those quotes you posted nonsensical Dr. Grass because we are an omnivorous species. Biologically we have features that are only present in meat eating species which allow us to consume and digest meat.

I'm not saying that it's not possible to have a nutritionally complete diet without meat by the way, I'm just saying it's bollocks to claim that humans were never meant to eat meat at all. However we've vastly increased our intake of meat in a very short period of time (on an evolutionary timescale) which is what is leading to health problems.

 

Oh and I agree with the environmental concerns. The oceans are a complete disaster waiting to happen (or actually already happening and not enough people are paying attention yet). I'm a fan of commercial fish farming for this reason. And kangaroos would be best for red meat, much more environmentally friendly to farm.

Yeah... it's kinda funny, the meat vs vegetarian health debate really sorta depends on just how much you care about your health.


If you don't care at all, your better off eating meat... because chances are you'll just live an unhealthy vegetarian/vegan lifestyle.  Stuff like ating nothing but french fries, Macaroni and cheese, potato chips. (if vegetarian) etc.

If you slightly care, your better of vegetarian, because you'll eat more healthier foods that don't nessisarily taste as good as junk food.

If you moderatly care ot care a good amount.  Your better off with meat again, even red meat, because you'll get all the vitamins you need in decent doses (of course, meat being in moderation.)

If you care an ultra lot... it's about a break even point. 

Note by the way when they say a "20% increased chance of heart disease.  They don't mean you'd go from say... 5% to 25%.  They mean you'd go from 5% to 6%.


TLDR, Essentially, if you convinced the average 1st world person to go on a vegetarian diet or just removed the option, they'd probably end up in worse health cause they'd still eat nothing but garbage.