Is 'pink slime' in your beef?

[Dr.Grass]

pezus said:

Dr.Grass said:

pezus said:

Dr.Grass said:
I don't eat beef. It's unhealthy, expensive, bad for the environment/economy and is produced in a violent way.

Who says beef is unhealthy? We need the nutrients meat contains. (Or do you just not eat beef and eat other types of meat?)

You serious? Pretty much EVERYONE says so.

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"If you step back and look at the data, the optimum amount of red meat you eat should be zero."
     -- Walter Willett, M.D., of Brigham and Women's Hospital, director of a study that found a close correlation between red meat consumption and colon cancer.

"Usually, the first thing a country does in the course of economic development is to introduce a lot of livestock. Our data are showing that this is not a very smart move and the Chinese are listening. They are realizing that animal-based agriculture is not the way to go.... We are basically a vegetarian species and should be eating a wide variety of plant food and minimizing our intake of animal foods....

  "Once people start introducing animal products into their diet, that's when the mischief starts."
    -- T. Colin Campbell, Ph.D., of Cornell University, director of a study of 6,500 Chinese that found a close correlation between meat consumption and the incidence of heart disease and cancer.

  "The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of real food for real people, you'd better live real close to a real good hospital."
     -- Neal D. Barnard, M.D., President, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, Washington, D.C.

  "When we kill the animals to eat them, they end up killing us because their flesh, which contains cholesterol and saturated fat, was never intended for human beings."
     -- William C. Roberts, M.D., editor of The American Journal of Cardiology

  "All red meat contains saturated fat. There is no such thing as truly lean meat. Trimming away the edge ring of fat around a steak really does not lower the fat content significantly. People who have red meat (trimmed or untrimmed) as a regular feature of their diets suffer in far greater numbers from heart attacks and strokes."
     -- Michael Klaper, M.D., Medical Director, EarthSave Foundation, Santa Cruz, California

"The thousands of people who have suffered food poisoning after eating beef will, no doubt, appreciate that their beef was aesthetically acceptable, even though it made them ill. Lovely to look at, dangerous to eat is not a standard that is likely to help beef sales."
     -- Carol Tucker Foreman, Assistant Secretary of Agriculture during the Carter administration, commenting on the inadequacy of the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Streamlined (Meat) Inspection System (SIS).

  "As happened with tobacco, health warnings about meat eating are multiplying, and awareness of the environmental effects of meat production is rising. Just as cigarettes lost their allure, meat is losing its social cachet in some countries. Food marketers in the United Kingdom estimate that 2 million people in that country are strict vegetarians. More important, the number of people limiting meat in their diets is rising rapidly. An estimated 6 million people in the United Kingdom dine on meatless meals most of the time."
     -- Alan B. Durning and Holly B. Brough, in Taking Stock: Animal Farming and the Environment, Worldwatch Institute, Washington, D.C., 1991

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'''We need the nutrients meat contains. (Or do you just not eat beef and eat other types of meat?)''

This is one of the most ridiculous myths. I've been completely vegetarian for over 7 years (no egg either) and I hardly ever get sick. I have friends that are vegan with perfect health. WHICH nutrients do we NEED from meat? Because I know hundreds of people that are vegetarian and - on average - they have much better health than the other people I know.

 

 

It's not a myth. Do you take B12 supplements for an example or eat B12 fortified food?  The protein composition of meat is also much better than of most vegetables/fruits. I didn't say you needed to eat meat, you can live perfectly well by skipping it and being aware of where you can get the nutrients meat contains.

Red meat is also rich in iron compared with food of plant origin.

Also, some of those quotes above are just plain bullshit. Cholesterol, as an example, is an essential compenent of cell membranes, it is used to produce bile acid (essential for fat uptake) and Vitamin D ("never meant for humans" my ass). And most of them sound a whole lot as vegetarian propaganda honestly. 

I'm pretty sure a moderated intake of meat is not bad for your health. It's when you start eating too much that you see health problems come forth.

 

No. I do not take any supplements or eat fortified food. I don't take note of how many proteins or iron or B12 or whatever I take in. It's not an issue at all. The only people that suffer from issues are those that become vegan/vegetarian in a non-vegetarian family and then they suffer from malnutrition because they try to brave it out and not complain even though they are silently starving (personal experience here).

I don't eat much either, because I'm incredibly lazy. The proof that I'm incredibly lazy is that I stayed at home 2 days this week and played videogames despite my work/studies, but that's not exactly the point. The proof that I don't eat much is that I had a tiny cup of cereal with milk and honey this morning, one pack of french fries for lunch, and two slices of bread with avo for dinner today. Other days I could eat more, but if there's one thing I learnt from Ayurveda it's that people generally eat too much.

The point is I'm not a health freak at all, but I can absolutely confirm that my health has been incredibly good the last 7 years. I used to get flu once or twice a year, and colds and sinuses too. Now I sometimes go a whole year without feeling any ill health at all.

Iron smiron. baaah.