The American Right and Anti-Intellectualism

[theprof00]

badgenome said:

theprof00 said:

Bolded is more shadows. I'm sorry if this sounds like labelling but more often than not, these arguments I get into politically all revolve around Republicans predicting a future different from what's bee predicted. Hey, I know you guys could be right. I mean, fair enough, but that's why repubs and dems will never be on the same page, because everyone is arguing an unprovable future.

Really? The CBO is required to take into account the statistics fed into it. If they're told, "We're going to find a bag of gold that will pay for this program," then they have to take that as fact. Instead they were told only slightly less fanciful things like, "We're going to cut Medicare." In its own reports, the CBO has noted that this is highly unlikely to ever happen even though they are bound to assume that it will for the purposes of their estimate. By all means, though, continue your handwaving.

Well I see you've found your cherry. Enjoy it. I'm not going to argue a whole lot because the cutting is not clearly detailed rather than explained as a lot of cuts in costs, (they're actually taking 17m more into medicare), etc etc, but cutting overall costs through the taxes and employer structure of insurance, and sure I'm completely in agreement that some people will probably lose coverage and others will gain. And I'm not going to argue that with you. Because, I'm honestly not knowledgeable in the area to deal with your vehemence.

What I do know is the difference between gross and net, and I also know that you've now twice thought that your source was telling you correctly.

"but if the gross cost has doubled then it's not exactly arguing about monsters in the shadows"

I'm not going to belabour the point. I can't stand the thought of raising your blood pressure another hair, lest my flesh be verbally ripped off my body.