Michael-5 said:
killerzX said:
Michael-5 said:
killerzX said:
you realize, you lied again, as usual.
pre-alpha, is still playable. its just a early build, non-finished. just like the killzone 3 beta in december was pre-alpha. i saw nothing about them playing a level in that article, but i will take you at your word (which i shouldnt because you constantly lie and misrepresent, and back track on you own words).
also it was nearly 4 months after gears, 8 months after e3. thats a hell of a long time in game development. i was slihghtly exagerated the timeframes to get accross a point (i also thought gears 2 released in September) in other words...you lied.
no in other words, i thought gears released in September, and in other words my point still stands gears got realeased like 3-4 months after e3, so much closer to complete, killzone released 4 months after that, 8 months after e3. game was no where near finished. and my whole point is e3 awards for best graphics of non released non finished games is pointless. and by your own accord MGS4 has better graphics than KZ2, which is utterly ridiculous.
but none of that matters ign, gave their impressions of games during e3, before the games were release. they were unfinshised builds, opinions of nonreleased games. it doesnt matter we are talking finished product here. and by your own argument, MGS4 has better graphics than Killzone 2. because ign, said MGS4 had better graphics than gears 2.yup, that is correct.
yes you are very very very biased. i dont think i have every seen someone more biased before, and think they are innocent at the same time.
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Guess you don't know your greek ABC's... Alpha comes before beta, not the other way around, and no they don't overlap, they are different stages in development.
it was called a "beta" but was still alpha code.
and if you look at the e3 footage it said pre alpha.e3 2008 or 2006? Not 2008.
Pre-Alpha is before the character models are all finished, Alpha is when all the models are done, and the game is technically playable, beta is the stage where they smooth it all out.
and the killzone "beta" was Alpha, and e3 build was pre-alpha
This below is pre-alpha
Notice, no background, floor, and only a character model? Not at all playable...
Take a guess which game it's for.
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so in other words your whole argument is debunked and meaningless.
end of the year awards of finished games > mid year early impressions of non finished games.
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Where does it say pre-alpha? Nowhere exactly.
i cant be bothered to embed a video, but just youtube, killzone 3 e3 demo. it clearly says pre-alpha.
but i already proved you wrong about the alpha beta thing, which you lied and said it wasnt. so again comparing unfinished games in early builds is meaningless and stupid.
Which end of the year award said Killzone 2 looked better then Gears 2? Nowhere exactly.
most sites didnt compare gears 2 and killzone 2 as because the came out in different years. but using some deductive reasoning and logic, we can piece things together. so lets start, most sites gave MGS4 best graphics award over gears 2, including your precious ign.com. killzone2 looks much much better than MGS4, therefore KIllzone 2 is graphically better than gears 2 (which doesnt look impressive). furthermore lens of truth did an analysis of killzone 2 vs Gears 2, and killzone 2 came out on top. furthermore still in Digital foundry analysis of killzone 2 they talk at great length about all the bars and standards it raised with the only game coming close was Uncharted 1 (2007), they make no mention of Gears 2.
So unless you can find some major website saying other wise, IGN says Gears 2 > Killzone 2. That game has been in development since 2006, whatever was presented at E3 2008 was the late stages of the game dev, just like Gears. 3 months release difference doesn't mean anything, both released in the same fall/winter season. Now unless you actually have some arguement to return, instead of ignoreing facts and presenting opinion....and then calling me biased. Don't reply because I won't.
facts? all youve done is cling to ONE site's meaningless opinion of e3 trailers, of non released, non finished games. that there is meaningless
Also the game is a rumored Sony Smash Bros fighter. Kratos and Sweet Tooth are the only released character models.
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