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Kasz216 on 12 March 2012
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Jay520 said:
Kasz216 said:

I don't disagree with that... with the exception that I don't think we should discoruage developers from creating such things even if they don't find critical and commercial success.

People should be free to do whatever they like, and pretty much everything has an audience or some kind... and if someone wants to make it, why the hell not?


My point is... everything on a DVD isn't a movie.  Everything on a Videogame console isn't a videogame.

 

This becomes VERY important going into the modern age of multiformats.  Example... Ebooks.

E books are books.

If I were to release "Catcher in the Rye" for Xbox 360 and put it on an DVD, it would be no less a book.

If I were to release "Catcher in the Rye" in movie theatres where every minute the "Page" turned to the next wall of text,  or if it was all scrolling text... it's not a movie, it's a book.

To refer to things based on there format instead of context is wrong.


I guess I included the critical & commercial success thing because I don't think we should actually encourage developers to release critical & commercial failures. We should discourage such a thing imo. That can't be good for the industry.

As for the Heavy Rain thing, I don't want to discuss it anymore (I can see when I've lost a debate). I guess I sort of felt insulted when people kept saying HR wasn't a game & felt obliged to say something.

Fair enough, some people probably meant it as an insult. 

I don't however.  I'm just a fan categorizations having meanings... that way it's possible to have a valid critical opinion of them.

This is espiecally important in videogames, which is a medium, despite it's huge rise in popularity among adults, is seen as a "non artistic" pursuit... partly in due to the awful state of "Critical review".

 

For an artform/media form to get mainstream approval it tends to require a strict and proffesional critical class.  He can move past that once considered "real" critical review and standards.

Art being the prototpical example of this.

A good book on it being http://www.amazon.com/End-Art-Donald-Kuspit/dp/0521832527