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Sal.Paradise on 11 March 2012
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Michael-5 said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Guys, there is no point arguing with these people. If you post pictures that they think look worse, they call you out on it, if you post pictures that they think look better, they will say they're bullshots or low res in denial.

The countless in game, high resolution, user-captured pictures speak for themselves.

It's funny really, the only xbox 360 shots people have posted were
1. Comparing Gears of War 3 to the downloadable Uncharted 3 beta in an attempt to trick us,
2. bullshots from Forza 4's autovista mode
3. the cockpit screenshots from Forza 3 and 4 that, when I posted better looking pictures, the guy said 'oh the ones I posted I just quickly found on the internet they don't count'

1. Uncharted 3 multiplayer looks no different then the beta, they didn't rebuild the engine since then. If Gears 3 looks comparable, then guess what, the graphical difference isn't huge.
2. Autovista Mode is a part of the game, and in all fairness that is the best looking graphics engine on any console, lol.
3. You posted better looking pictures of what? I thought we agreed Forza 4 and GT5 both look awesome? I never said my pictures "didn't count."

What about my links showing FPS drops in GT5, but Fora 4 running smoother? My link of IGN saying Gears 2 looks better then Killzone 2 (and to many people here Killzone 2 ranked as high as 4th best looking game this gen).

1. It's pretty common knowledge that betas are not representative of final products, they are often builds much older than even the release date of the beta, let alone the final product. When head2head even recognize this fact when comparing the Gears 3 and Uncharted 3 betas: " Again, we know these are just BETA demos, and  we can definitely except to see many updates before these two get released. We are huge fans of both the Uncharted and Gears of War series, and each BETA has blown our expectations out of the water.  Why cant you?

Also, which game, in the end, took the most technical achievement/best graphics awards? On page 8, Aldro has very handily posted a list of best graphics awards won by Uncharted 3, totalling 28 (I subtracted 3 as these 3 were 'best ps3 graphics awards', not multiplat)  Now please, find me the awards Gears 3 won for best overall graphics, because I can't find them.  

So what that tells me is that the final Uncharted 3 product looked better than the final Gears of War 3 product, unless you want to tell me that all the sites listed by Aldro somehow don't count. This is called evidence. Not just you or the crysis 2 guy assuring me that 'dude they totally look the same they didn't change the engine trust me', which is the length and breadth of the argument you've presented so far. If the two games looked comparable, I'd expect GeoW 3 to win an equal or at least nearly equal amount of awards. I can't find any. Although I'm sure there must be some out there, right?

2. I had this discussion earlier in the thread. Using Autovista in Forza 4 or Photomode in GT5, as much as I would like to, is useless. Might as well compare CGI cutscenes. 

3. "The bottom one is Forza 3, not 4. I took a 2 minute google look, I'm sure there are better ones"

Yes, both GT5 and Forza 4 look awesome, I agree. Hard call between the two. I'm afraid I can't compare GT5 and Forza 4, as I do not own Forza 4 and I haven't seen it in real life, nor can I find any awards that the two games one to compare. I will say from that video it is very close though, even though I do not like the over-done bloom lighting in F4, but that's just personal preference, not an absolute judgement. That F4 screenshot however was disgusting lol, just an accident on your part I think, the game looks much better than that. 

As to your comment about KZ2..I believe you thought Aldro said KZ2 was the 4th best looking game after U3>U2>KZ3, but he corrected you and said that Gears 3 was in fact the fourth best looking game. I'd definitely agree with him on that! So no problems here.