Michael-5 said:
killerzX said:
Michael-5 said:
God of War 3 got Runner up in 2010, just like Mass Effect 2....
at one site, GOW3 won the vast majority of best graphics awards.
Since you have it tabulated, how many GOTY awards did ME2 get in 2010 compared to GoW 3?
we are talking graphics, not GOTY. typo
How about Alan Wake and Heavy Rain (include # of runner ups for both)
what does this have to do with anything? what does it even mean? Read the OP, Heavy Rain is one of 3 games which are used as examples to show PS3 is graphics king. The fact is Heavy Rain has got less best graphics awards then Gears, Mass Effect, and Forza.
2009 Killzone 2 was runner up to UC2, but so was Alan Wake 2.
what does this mean, how can killzone be the runner up, if alan wake was the runner up, which one is it. again UC2 won easily over 90% of best graphics, with Killzone taking the majority of the rest, and i dont know of any place that gave Alan wake best graphics, which is like 540p or something.multiple runner ups, and you would be surprised how few best graphics Killzone 2 won.
In E3 2008 Gears of War 2 won best graphics (Over Killzone 2, and Crysis Warhead), but MGS4 won for the year.
killzone 2 came out in 2009, why compare it to GeOW2 which came out in 2008. also MGS4 won more best graphics, as did crysis, and i believe even GTAIV. E3 rates upcoming games, and IGN compared those, Gears 2 beat Killzone 2, which many people here put second to Uncharted. Prooves a point, that even if Uncharted is the best graphically, 1 franchise hardly puts the PS3 console on top when #2 is 360 exclusive.
Also P.S. Crysis on XBLA and PSN doesn't look that different then Crysis on PC. Crysis > Uncharted, but UC3 > Crysis. Overall, the verdict, your crazy to care about small differences like this. Get a PC, play any game in 1080p, and then hush. Your comparing games that look nearly identical in 720p and sub 720p, when any of these games look much much better on Pc in native 1080p.
you are talking about others going crazy about this stuff, but look in the mirror, you cant even accept things that are pretty much well established. in almost every reputable site, including sites like DF or what ever the other site is, lens something. you will see its usually considered (not direct lists but, taking into account of what they say about said game). best graphics are UC3>KZ3>GOW3>UC2>KZ2> then perhaps Crysis2 (sometimes crysis is listed above KZ2, which is funny since KZ2 is 720p with locked 30fps, and good AA).So if Gears 2 > KZ2, and Gears 3 is above KZ3....that means Gears 3 is #2, which means the best graphics games are staggered over the HD consoles... Which prooves this thread to be complete false.
Again....ah never mind...
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killerzX said:
Michael-5 said:
Spike....is just terrible. They didn't nominate Super Mario Galaxy as GOTY Material in 2007 and got chastized so much Skyward Sword was an auto contender this year.
You also clerverly avoided my questions. How many Best Graphics awards did ME2 get and GoW3? I really doubt a lot more. Same with Alan Wake vs. Heavy Rain
those games are all from the same year. and GOW3 the most. furthermore you seem to be the only one mentioning Heavy Rain, i havent seen anybody else bring it up, in fact the same goes for ME2 and Alan Wake. what do they have anything to do with, they didnt win many if at all best graphics. Read the OP....3 games mentioned are GoW3, UC3, and Heavy Rain. Heavy Rain, like GoW 3, is outclassed by many 360 exclusive and even some multi-platform games.
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I'm just going to point something out. You said UC3>UC2>KZ3>KZ2 as the top 4 best graphics on consoles, right? IGN said Gears 2 is above Killzone 2, (where, when, link?) -----------Link---------- and Gears 3 is a huge upgrade on that. So I do agree UC2>Gears 3 (who are you agreeing with> yourself? no site i can think of has said such a thing, most sites didnt even mention gears 3 for best graphics, and sites like DF said Gears had to make great sacrifices for the level of detail they had, with screen tearing, dropped frame rate, and forgoing any AA.),...Link? I know Killzone 2 and I think 3 had screen tearing issues too, doesn't mean Gears 3 doesn't look better... but the difference isn't that big, and in the end racing sim like Forza and GT5 look much much better.
IMHO Forza 4>GT5=Forza 3>UC3>Gears3>UC2>ME2=KZ3>KZ2=GoW3
If you disagree, that's your own personal opinion, not a concensus.
I don't know where I would put Mass Effect 3 as I want to beat ME2 before playing it.
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killerzX said:
Michael-5 said:
Both are 720p. GT5 is only 1080p when viewing cars in the garage and when you take a photo. GT5 does has 1080p vertical resolution, but has frequent frame rate drops to 30FPS (lower in 3D), even in optimal 12 person driving, no weather. Forza 4 holds a constant 60 FPS.
GT5 looks more like Forza 3, with the difference being car models look better in GT5 (for the limited cars that have them).
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no thats false, GT5's native resolution is 1080p (1280x1080) just check DF are any other site.
That's not 1080p.....1080p is 1920x1080. 1280x1080 is sub 1080p.
GT5 = 1080p always (you can choose 720p with more AA). and frame rate analysis shows GT5 is usualy around 50fps, and thats when the game first launched many things have been improved sense.
Posted link above, frequent FPS dips to below 30FPS, even in Spec 2.0.... GT5 is also only 720p, like Forza 4...
Forza = 720p always. with frame rate usually around 59-60fps. and they had to make great sacrifices to get 16 cars at the same time like gt5 has. and it still doesnt have weather effects or day night transistions
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"Read the OP, Heavy Rain is one of 3 games which are used as examples to show PS3 is graphics king. The fact is Heavy Rain has got less best graphics awards then Gears, Mass Effect, and Forza."
Uhm No. Heavy Rain is NOT considerd as one of the best PS3 graphics. The game has great cgi faces during loading times lol, otherwise its not that impressive. Where are you getting this from? A random guy saying he likes HR's graphics?
"multiple runner ups, and you would be surprised how few best graphics Killzone 2 won."
It's because the Uncharted franchise IS miles ahead of the competition. 2011 was a further estimate to this. Killzone 2, Killzone 3, Crysis 2, Rage, Gears 3, Forza 3, Forza 4 -- You name the games released in 2009 and 2011 that you find fancy in terms of graphics. Uncharted 2 & 3 are bombarded with awards because it just IS the definite king according to CRITICS and Media outlets this generation. You disagree personally? Fine mate. But I'm just highlighting this again.
"E3 rates upcoming games, and IGN compared those, Gears 2 beat Killzone 2, which many people here put second to Uncharted. Prooves a point, that even if Uncharted is the best graphically, 1 franchise hardly puts the PS3 console on top when #2 is 360 exclusive."
LOL. This is false.
"Best of E3's" on outlet sites, rates what we were shown, not how good the games actually are because.. yknow.. we dont really get to play the game itself aside from perhaps a test lmao. So Twisted Metal is the best Multiplayer game of E3 2011 because G4 said so? Get real! It simply shows good presentation and showcasing.
"So if Gears 2 > KZ2, and Gears 3 is above KZ3....that means Gears 3 is #2, which means the best graphics games are staggered over the HD consoles... Which prooves this thread to be complete false."
WHAT THE FUCK? Killzone 2 is MILES worse looking than Killzone 3.
DUDE you have NOT played these games, I am positive! You think two games JUST because its the same franchise LOOK the same? No.. You HAVE to be trolling me!!
"Read the OP....3 games mentioned are GoW3, UC3, and Heavy Rain. Heavy Rain, like GoW 3, is outclassed by many 360 exclusive and even some multi-platform games."
The OP can say CoD is the best graphics on consoles. You would completely accept that and start making arguments towards it?
"Link? I know Killzone 2 and I think 3 had screen tearing issues too, doesn't mean Gears 3 doesn't look better... but the difference isn't that big, and in the end racing sim like Forza and GT5 look much much better."
Forza and GT have barely won any graphic awards for a reason. People don't find them as stunning as other games. I'd even say the racing genre as a whole is a tad back in comparison to adventure / action games. But thats just MY opinion, nothing factual. What is factual is that other opinions all around the world, that get to play 10 times the amount of games You and I do, are giving awards and praising Uncharted 3, Uncharted 2 and God of War III as the best looking games on consoles, period.
Dude you're obsessing over resolution as it is the only thing to have. By your standards:
Wipeout HD is the console graphics king :). Oh please...
