New iPad and PS Vita specs

[Shinobi-san]

superchunk said:

Shinobi-san said:
To add to that Superchunk the next gen for tegra and snapdragon, as in after Q1 2013 is anyones guess, since that information hasnt been revealed yet. Unless you want to trust nvidias proclaimed advancements for their next tegra device...but only a stupid person would do that.

Its not like a manufactures is going to come out with something amazing for the remainder of this year, the tec is already known, its already planned for release and it is not better than PSV :)

Even a new galaxy S3/iphone 5 is limited to what the manufactures have available for the 2012/2013 timeframe.

Follow the links. In every case there are chips coming out now that are equal to Vita and chips slated for 2012 (probably late) that are superior. Look at their tables and the last few items listed and their specs. All based on ARM CPU/GPU configurations have items clearly better for THIS year. I don't really compare Tegra since they build their own GPUs to go with the ARM CPUs and without a wide range of benchmarking, its not as easy to speak to. However, these two alone will be in high-end products as well as a simple understanding of Apple and what they always do its obvious their next chip will be identical to Vita's in the iphone5 later this summer.

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Samsung's chips http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos

Exynos 4412

32 nm HKMG

ARMv7

1.5-1.8 GHz Quad-core ARM Cortex-A9

2012

Exynos 5450

32 nm HKMG

ARMv7

2.0 GHz Quad-coreARM Cortex-A15 MPCore

2012

Here's the GPUs likely to be combined with these CPUs

Mali-T604	4	256 KiB	OpenGL ES 1.1 & 2.0, OpenVG 1.1, OpenCL 1.1, DirectX 11, Renderscript	[4]
Mali-T658	8	256 KiB	OpenGL ES 1.1 & 2.0, OpenVG 1.1, OpenCL 1.1, DirectX 11, Renderscript	[5]

Then combine this with Samsung now adding 1GB RAM and likely having 1.5 or 2GB by next year with this group.

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Snapdragon S4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)

APQ8064[29][30][31]

28 nm

ARMv7

2.5 GHz Quad-core Krait

Adreno 320

Connectivity features not included

2012

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Qualcomm-announces-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-chip-with-Adreno-320-graphics_id27381

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My point still stands. By end of summer there will be many devices equal to Vita in terms of raw power. As 2013 starts there will be many devices soundly beating Vita and as the year rolls on it will only begin to be more of a separation. 

Its like you not reading some of the things im posting...

adreno based gpus are weak in comparison to powervr gpus! They are weak compared to tegra as well. The adreno 320 is better than the current one in the S4 chip but not much better. This is why qualcomm has just recently licensed powervr gpu tec imo. To advance their gpu offering for their next gen stuff. And since we talking gaming performance gpu power is very important.

With regards to the exynos chip..which announced smartphones/tablets use the Exynos 5250 or higher? All of samsungs tablets announced at MWC does not have these SoC's in them, ALL OF THEM. The galaxy S3, according to current rumours is most likely to get the Exynos 4412, which will put it in the same ballpark as PSV in terms of CPU performance but again the gpu is inferior! 

And since most manufactures have NOT announced their next gen tec, i dont see how you can claim that it will be that much more advanced than PSV when they arent even up to scratch at the moment.

To end this, my main point from a prev post:

"Im not saying the PSV is waaaay ahead of the rest, but what im saying is that it is ahead at the moment (especially in terms of gaming performance), im also saying that in the next year the PSV's chipset will stil be relevant, id imagine quad core cpu/gpu combinations will only become the norm then."

You then said this:

"Vita's chips are what all the next phones/tablets will have THIS year. In the next 3 to 6 months."

Thats where i call total bullshit. NO phone/tablet thats currently announced or even rumoured to be announced, releasing in 3 - 6 months will have the power of the PSV especially not tegra 3 or S4 devices! 

I feel like ive derailed your thread enough! lol my apologies.