Dr.Grass said:
TWRoO said:
Dr.Grass said:
The Germans use the term 'Ego Shooter' for what we refer to as FPS. This perfectly encapsulates what FPS means. Also, Prime would never be considered in that category.
May I ask if you played and finished one of the Prime games (especially the first 2) ?
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All three. MP to 100%, MP2 I completed the main game but didn't get 100%, and MP3 Completed to 100% on the lower two difficulties, and everything but the last boss on the highest difficulty. All were on the Wii though if that makes any difference.
And to say it again, I am not stating that the Primes are not a lot different than the usual 'Ego shooter', it is merely my opinion that the term FPS has little to do with the genre of the game. If I were to compare it to books for example, the genre can be 'Horror' or 'Fantasy' or 'Mystery'. Books can also be written in first or third person perspectives, but I think the argument I put for FPS vs. TPS was good enough before (FPS and TPS may play differently, but that doesn't have any effect on the genre of each game). The sticking point seems to be the term 'shooter'... which in book terms I guess would be more of a literary device (e.g. juxtaposition) that can be used across genre without otherwise effecting it.
To ask you a question or two: Do you consider Deus Ex to be an FPS or not? I believe it's possible to go through most of that game without firing, but to me that doesn't stop it being an FPS.
Battalion Wars to me is an Action-Strategy game by genre, but does that stop it being a TPS?
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I'm not sure why we're having this debate if you don't consider 'FPS' a genre.
If you want to lable every single game that has some sort of projectile weopon and is viewed from the character's 1st person perspective as an FPS, then I guess the term FPS is secondary to you since the main genre of the title isn't contained therein. In fact, you should then lable almost all story driven games as FPS or TPS since that's how they play. I don't like what you'Re doing.
Respect for finishing all three. They were majestic.
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Well in my first reply that's what I was saying (on reading it back I think I could have been more clear though). And I wouldn't say I consider it secondary to the genre, more like seperated from. And I wouldn't lable all first person games with projectiles as FPS.... the 's' is still important and has to be a major part of the gameplay for me to consider it a shooter. You can shoot from FP perspective in Endless Ocean 2, but that isn't an FPS. the Primes main story has you shooting at things almost as much as the more usual style FPS in normal gameplay areas... then in boss fights it's almost continual firing for 5 minutes.
And yes, they are majestic... MP3 was the first I played and I literally sat for 5 minutes listening to the beautiful music in the main menu before I started a game file. And when I first visited SkyTown I spent half the time just looking around from the outdoor platforms.
