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Marks said:
Cirio said:
Marks said:

I'm probably going to sound ignorant saying this, but didn't Muhummad say things like it was okay to harm/kill non-Muslims and encouraged violence against them? 

I obviously haven't read the qu'ran myself but I think it has verses that say things along those lines. 

Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not trying to be offensive, I actually would like to learn something. 

Muhammad never encouraged violence against anyone, and he never said it was okay to harm or kill any human. I believe I know what verse you're referring to from the Quran because it has been used out of context by the media a lot, so it's actually good that you're questioning about it. Firstly, you should know that the Quran isn't the words of Muhammad, but it is the word of God (that is, in Islamic belief).

God (in general) said that Muslims should first pray for the idol-worshippers and hope that they become believers in God. Muslims should then try to turn them into believers, but if they refuse then it is fine and they should leave them alone. If the non-believers attack the Muslims (like they savagely used to during that era), then it is okay for a Muslim to strike his sword against the non-believer to protect his beliefs.

That's a very general explanation of it, but people like to single out the verse of "striking the non-believers" out of context and blow it out of proportion mainly as an act of phobia against Islam. But when you read that verse in context of the paragraph it's in, then it makes sense.


Cool, thanks for clearing that up. I had my suspicions that those verses you talked about were being brought up out of context. Always good to learn a bit more!


Google the word tagyya, muslims are allowed to lie when its good for the spread of their religion, NEVER believe what a muslim says to you.

Please, buy the quran and read it for yourself.

Just two examples of  what muhammad really said:

"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah" (Ibn ishaq 992)

"I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there  is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad  is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33)

There are more many more quotes like that, both from the quran and the hadiths (the word of allah and the word of muhammad respectively)

 

 

Its no contradiction that 80% of religious people who are persecuted because of their beliefs ae christians and most of them who are oppressed are the ones in islamic countries.



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