By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
noname2200 said:
Plezbo said:

One last comment and then I am done with this thread.  What crawled up your ass and died?  I stated an opinion, that was better supported than yours that 

"smart phones have done nothing to the market, they are totally different, 3ds sales show this"

Wrong guy.

As for what "crawled up (my) ass and died," I was trying to have a discussion on a subject which you apparently brought up. Since a discussion without facts is really just a pissing contest or a circle-jerk, and since I assumed you had some data to coincide with your assertion before you stated your opinion, I felt asking for some of that data was perfectly warranted. My mistake?

Anyhow, here's some contrary data to what you asserted. The 3DS sold as many units in eight months as the DS did in one year, which contradicts the statement I underlined earlier. This is the same DS that has set handheld sales records in both units and revenue despite coinciding with the Western debut of smartphones, and which has done exceedingly well in Japan, where cell phone games have been popular for over a decade.

Now, it's possible that you may ultimately be correct that "3DS and PSV will sell less total hardware and software due to direct competition in the mobile space from smartphones and tablets," although as a research engineer you already know that cause and effect are always fun things to sort out. All I ask for is data to support that statement. The one bit of support you offered earlier for your hypothesis has thus far been incorrect. The new data apparently rely on anecdotes and discounting the 3DS' system-sellers.  As a research engineer, you already know the former has little value as data. As a person with a brain, you already know the latter isn't worth addressing.

Although I do appreciate the confirmation that your position is basically based on what you perceive to happen in your own small corner of the world. That's not a slam, by the way, just a statement that in the future you can and hopefully will do better.

Finally, if your definition of a dedicated handheld is really that narrow, then last generation was probably the final generation where we'd have a dedicated handheld, just like the last dedicated home console generation was two generations past. I disagree with your definition, but at least now we have a better idea of what we're actually discussing. That's the value of defining your terms.

Ok, I meant sales at launch, the first week of release, of which DS had more, I did not do a good job explaining this.  Also, I definitely did not check to see that you were not the person who first commented on my post, leading me to believe that you were trolling my opinion for no good reason.  In actuality you were asking me to back up my assertations with facts, so I come out of this whole thing looking like a whiny ass, sorry, I thought you were just disagreeing with me for no reason and using a "show me the facts" argument when you had infact shared an opinion of your own without factual basis.  

Of course, my guesses are just that, extrapolations of trends I see on the internet and around me.  Sure, the fact that my co-workers' kids had DSs and PSPs but chose iPhones over 3DSs or PSVs isn't representative of the world at large, but I do think it is a growing trend among the youth.  I don't think you will see a game system again without some sort of cellular connectivity.  In this narrow definition of mobile gaming device, I suppose only 3DS fits, and with the app store, and lots of other features, maybe it too no longer fits my definition.  

If you disagree with my DS vs. 3DS launch assertation I will look the data up shortly, I am at work right now and shouldnt even be typing this reply, but such is life. 

 

Now, if you will excuse me, I must take my leave, because apparently, that smell is coming from something that died in my ass.