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Gballzack said:
jorma said:

Oh a baseless acusation, never get any of those.

 

Yea... baseless.. uhu.. and what points are those you feel you are making? I see none other than trolling and insulting people. I made a comment that you answered with "sony is europes toilet" and "when did europe ever matter in anything". Besides not even being able to spell my nick right. 

Do you feel those were valid points that deserved a serious answer? I think it was closer to "sidestepping the argument and answering with shallow attacks on my vanity". 

 Once again. Pot Kettle Black. Twice in a row now, Gballzack.


If you can provide anything in the slightest to back up your claims you're more than welcomed to but other than that all I see you doing is arguing semantics and rhetoric. If you can think of a real issue to debate or argue by all means feel free, but until then don't expect anything more than what you're contributing to this discussion: nothing.

Diomedes1976 said:
If you dont want Blu Ray nobody obliges you to buy 1.Stand alone player or Playstation 3 . 2.Even if you buy the Playstation 3 you dont have to buy BR films . But you will still benefit from 1.Great storage media from the BR for games . 2.Multiple localized versions of the game on the same disc and worlwide releases for some games . 3.Way greater resistence to scratchs of the format and better techology (transfer times ,it reads the whole BR instead of "Zones " ,etc ) . As for the topic itself look at this http://www.playfrance.com/news-infos-le-bluray-s-impose-en-europe.html For those of you that dont speak french I will translate it to you briefly :basically BR has 65% of the HD films sold this year in Europe and in the recent weeks the difference is growing to the point of 75% .So I guess we could say Hd-DVD is screwed worlwide by the BR .

 

But you can't buy a PS3 without the Blu-Ray in it though, and that's at least a 200 dollar contribution to the system's cost if not more. That's the persective of the debate. Please try and read more carefully before responding next time.


 

And you cant buy the WIi or X360 with CD if you want ,and you cant play DVD movies in the Wii,and you couldnt buy the Dreamcast with a DVD drive and so on .What are you trying to say exactly ?That you dont want PS3 ?Then whats the problem ,dont buy it all thats all .That the machine because the BR is expensive and you dont want to pay as much ?Again dont buy it ,or wait until the price drops until something wou are willing to pay .What you CANT do is to enter here and try to convince the ones that have already bought the machine or plan on doing so that they are stupid or "the toilet of Sony " because so .I thought quite hard about what machine getting .The low res graphics and control method of the Wii arent for me ,and the X360 I had some issues ;lack of japanese support outside some of the big companies (capcom and namco basically ) ,bad reliability and over all the online with its fees .The PS3 offers me a lot of things I like ,and yes between them there is  a BR drive that provides movies as you have never seen before .Plus since today the upscaling of DVD and PS1 and PS2 games .So stop bitching already ,we arent stupids ,we dont need you to decide in what to spend our money and specially if we didnt want the PS3 with its built-in BR drive we wouldnt have bought it .