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i think microsoft could be screwing themselves over if they include all the bells and whistles (also if they ban used games). If Sony can price the ps4 well and stick to the hardcore i think they could win everyone over.

also, if the wii u is significantly cheaper than the xbox 720, then ms will probably not get any of the casual crowd. i think nintendo learned alot from the 3ds launch, and also there software is what drives their hardware.